Roy Keane - new assistant manager (CONFIRMED)

[adrenachrome]

He's a thuggish, arrogant arsehole who was never that damn good as a player anyway, and was described by a very friendly BBC report when it looked like he might be taking over at Celtic as 'not known as a coach, nor as the sort of manager to improve a team tactically'. What precisely does he do, in that case?

Or perhaps a more salient question would be why does Lambert appear so fond of appointing people with thuggery and violence so prominent in their personalities? This isn't a trait I want at the club, not anywhere near it.

You can say what you like about him as a manager and a person, but to say he wasn't a great player is just wrong.

As clearly proven by his winning of both the PWA and PFA Player of the Year Awards in 2000.

[oldham_villa]

Roy Keane, not a good player?

No offence Monty, but I'm at the opposite end of the opinion scale there mate.

[hilts_coolerking]

I appreciate the importance of them being pumped and up for it, full of aggression and willing to run through walls etc, etc, and Keane might instil that. I have no problem with that.

What concerns me most is our lack of tactical nous and creativity, though, and I can't see anything in his past as a manager to suggest he'll sort that out.

It's like getting your car tuned (do people still get cars tuned? I doubt it) whilst ignoring the four flat tyres you've got.

Absolutely.  It was just Monty's rather withering assessment of Keane as a player that I and others were disputing.

[montague]

Would get in all time premier league team no question.

[Brend'Watkins]

I appreciate the importance of them being pumped and up for it, full of aggression and willing to run through walls etc, etc, and Keane might instil that. I have no problem with that.

What concerns me most is our lack of tactical nous and creativity, though, and I can't see anything in his past as a manager to suggest he'll sort that out.

It's like getting your car tuned (do people still get cars tuned? I doubt it) whilst ignoring the four flat tyres you've got.

I think the analogy would work better the other way round, the tyres are sound except the ones at the back need replacing.  The engine needs attention as it lacks any sort of power.

[hilts_coolerking]

I appreciate the importance of them being pumped and up for it, full of aggression and willing to run through walls etc, etc, and Keane might instil that. I have no problem with that.

What concerns me most is our lack of tactical nous and creativity, though, and I can't see anything in his past as a manager to suggest he'll sort that out.

It's like getting your car tuned (do people still get cars tuned? I doubt it) whilst ignoring the four flat tyres you've got.

I think the analogy would work better the other way round, the tyres are sound except the ones at the back need replacing.  The engine needs attention as it lacks any sort of power.

And there's no steering wheel.

[pauliewalnuts]

I appreciate the importance of them being pumped and up for it, full of aggression and willing to run through walls etc, etc, and Keane might instil that. I have no problem with that.

What concerns me most is our lack of tactical nous and creativity, though, and I can't see anything in his past as a manager to suggest he'll sort that out.

It's like getting your car tuned (do people still get cars tuned? I doubt it) whilst ignoring the four flat tyres you've got.

I think the analogy would work better the other way round, the tyres are sound except the ones at the back need replacing.  The engine needs attention as it lacks any sort of power.

And there's no steering wheel.

And it's a Montego :-(

[Rolta]

He's a thuggish, arrogant arsehole who was never that damn good as a player anyway, and was described by a very friendly BBC report when it looked like he might be taking over at Celtic as 'not known as a coach, nor as the sort of manager to improve a team tactically'. What precisely does he do, in that case?

Or perhaps a more salient question would be why does Lambert appear so fond of appointing people with thuggery and violence so prominent in their personalities? This isn't a trait I want at the club, not anywhere near it.

Wow, I thought you were a brilliant light of Heroes and Villains, but now I see you just make things up! My, who would have guessed.

[hilts_coolerking]

I appreciate the importance of them being pumped and up for it, full of aggression and willing to run through walls etc, etc, and Keane might instil that. I have no problem with that.

What concerns me most is our lack of tactical nous and creativity, though, and I can't see anything in his past as a manager to suggest he'll sort that out.

It's like getting your car tuned (do people still get cars tuned? I doubt it) whilst ignoring the four flat tyres you've got.

I think the analogy would work better the other way round, the tyres are sound except the ones at the back need replacing.  The engine needs attention as it lacks any sort of power.

And there's no steering wheel.

And it's a Montego :-(

With one careless owner.

[pauliewalnuts]

He's a thuggish, arrogant arsehole who was never that damn good as a player anyway, and was described by a very friendly BBC report when it looked like he might be taking over at Celtic as 'not known as a coach, nor as the sort of manager to improve a team tactically'. What precisely does he do, in that case?

Or perhaps a more salient question would be why does Lambert appear so fond of appointing people with thuggery and violence so prominent in their personalities? This isn't a trait I want at the club, not anywhere near it.

Wow, I thought you were a brilliant light of Heroes and Villains, but now I see you just make things up! My, who would have guessed.

I honestly think you have a problem with the difference between "making things up" (which you accuse people of a lot) and "having a different opinion to you".

Can't you understand the difference?

It's a subjective opinion, it's not "making things up".

[pauliewalnuts]

I appreciate the importance of them being pumped and up for it, full of aggression and willing to run through walls etc, etc, and Keane might instil that. I have no problem with that.

What concerns me most is our lack of tactical nous and creativity, though, and I can't see anything in his past as a manager to suggest he'll sort that out.

It's like getting your car tuned (do people still get cars tuned? I doubt it) whilst ignoring the four flat tyres you've got.

I think the analogy would work better the other way round, the tyres are sound except the ones at the back need replacing.  The engine needs attention as it lacks any sort of power.

And there's no steering wheel.

And it's a Montego :-(

With one careless owner.

Maureen from "Driving School".



nice 1990s cultural reference there

[QBVILLA]

Would get in all time premier league team no question.

I rated Keane very highly as a player but I wouldn't have him in my all time 11.

[pauliewalnuts]

Would get in all time premier league team no question.

I rated Keane very highly as a player but I wouldn't have him in my all time 11.

Nor me, because Patrick Viera would be one of the first names on my list - too much chance of on pitch fisticuffs.

[Meanwood Villa]

I'm not sure what to make of it to be honest. Is this a Lerner appointment or a Lambert appointment? Does this mean Lambert will be the manager next season? Does this mean Lerner will be the owner next season? If the answer to  the last 2 questions is "not sure" then we shouldn't be appointing a new assistant should we? Unless it is on a rolling or temporary contract. It seems shambolic to me, much like a lot of things at the end of last season.

[tomd2103]

The Irish Times slant on things, nothing too revealing.

irish times

hope the link works.

And Emmet Malone gets in two digs about Birmingham/Brummies, the twat.

Water off a duck's back Eamonn.  As a complete aside and not wishing to hijack the thread but, last year sometime, I got into the car and tuned in to Matt Cooper (Irish Radio Media Journo) and he was interviewing some bloke, I have no idea who, about music and the Manchester influence.  Birmingham got mentioned and Cooper said "did anything musical ever come out of Birmingham?" and they both giggled.  I was incensed.  I immediately e-mailed him when I got home, listed about twenty musical acts with Birmingham origins, informed him I wasn't impressed with his and his guest's patronising attitude and would await his apology to the Birmingham musical scene and Brummies I particular.  I'm still waiting.

Interesting that an Irishman would make comments like that about Birmingham considering the considerable Irish influence and presence in the city.