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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22470 on: June 19, 2021, 09:16:34 PM »
A few iconic moments at Spurs, a few (many fewer) at Lazio, and flashes of quality here and there. He was a fine talent, but he was no Baggio or Romario or anything like that, and the tragic part of his personality meant it was always going to go unfulfilled.

Jack hasn't yet produced the Gazza-type iconic moment yet, but that's partly the times. There were so few proper creative players in England at that time, even fewer English ones, and if Jack were back then he'd eat the place alive.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22471 on: June 19, 2021, 09:43:55 PM »
Exactly. Gascoigne was a player when there were no 'players' (although Waddle, Hoddle and Cowans might disagree EDIT: and Barnes). English fans had been starved of flair. He undoubtedly had potential, and achieved some of it, but - tragically for him - he couldn't carry it through.

Equally, all this bunkum about 'if only he's signed for Sralex'...the man had and has serious mental health issues. Someone shouting angrily in his face wouldn't have changed that.
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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22472 on: June 19, 2021, 09:47:34 PM »
Exactly. Gascoigne was a player when there were no 'players' (although Waddle, Hoddle and Cowans might disagree). English fans had been starved of flair. He undoubtedly had potential, and achieved some of it, but - tragically for him - he couldn't carry it through.

Equally, all this bunkum about 'if only he's signed for Sralex'...the man had and has serious mental health issues. Someone shouting angrily in his face wouldn't have changed that.
That would be the same Sralex’ that took such good care of Paul McGrath?

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22473 on: June 19, 2021, 10:00:38 PM »
Quite.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22474 on: June 19, 2021, 10:08:30 PM »
A few iconic moments at Spurs, a few (many fewer) at Lazio, and flashes of quality here and there. He was a fine talent, but he was no Baggio or Romario or anything like that, and the tragic part of his personality meant it was always going to go unfulfilled.

Jack hasn't yet produced the Gazza-type iconic moment yet, but that's partly the times. There were so few proper creative players in England at that time, even fewer English ones, and if Jack were back then he'd eat the place alive.

I was a student in Newcastle when Gascoigne was coming through for them and used to go to a lot of their matches, and seeing the way Jack swaggers through games, standing out a mile as the most talented player on the pitch with that almost arrogant talent is incredibly reminiscent of seeing Gascoigne doing the same thing.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22475 on: June 19, 2021, 10:16:17 PM »
Gazza is by far the best English player I’ve ever seen. Unfortunately he is also the most infuriating as he only peaked for a very short time and never fulfilled his potential. Jack reminds me very much of him the way he plays and hopefully once he hangs up his boots he will have a lot more to show from his career than Paul.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22476 on: June 19, 2021, 10:22:15 PM »
Exactly. Gascoigne was a player when there were no 'players' (although Waddle, Hoddle and Cowans might disagree). English fans had been starved of flair. He undoubtedly had potential, and achieved some of it, but - tragically for him - he couldn't carry it through.

Equally, all this bunkum about 'if only he's signed for Sralex'...the man had and has serious mental health issues. Someone shouting angrily in his face wouldn't have changed that.
That would be the same Sralex’ that took such good care of Paul McGrath?

Well quite. Not the person to deal with a situation like Gazza's.

Let's be fair, he was for England a unique talent. Unlike all the four mentioned by SE above, he had this air of total unpredictability, of (if you like) being irresponsible, maverick. Jack has these qualities too, the excitement of trying something. Others did too in that era, however, and without the frustrations.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22477 on: June 19, 2021, 10:23:00 PM »
A few iconic moments at Spurs, a few (many fewer) at Lazio, and flashes of quality here and there. He was a fine talent, but he was no Baggio or Romario or anything like that, and the tragic part of his personality meant it was always going to go unfulfilled.

Jack hasn't yet produced the Gazza-type iconic moment yet, but that's partly the times. There were so few proper creative players in England at that time, even fewer English ones, and if Jack were back then he'd eat the place alive.

I was a student in Newcastle when Gascoigne was coming through for them and used to go to a lot of their matches, and seeing the way Jack swaggers through games, standing out a mile as the most talented player on the pitch with that almost arrogant talent is incredibly reminiscent of seeing Gascoigne doing the same thing.

Of course the Newcastle years, though of course it's harder to see a lot of that for those who weren't there.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22478 on: June 19, 2021, 10:37:33 PM »
Gazza's free kick goal at Wembley vs Arsenal was just incredible. The one thing he had after Newcastle was much more media spotlight because he joined Tottenham. It meant we all saw more of him and he was spoken about a lot more, and certainly as he became a regular international. There is also a dark fascination in him being a complicated character. Incredible on the pitch, many demons away from it. There was as much if not more media glee in reveling in that as there was what he did in his profession.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22479 on: June 19, 2021, 10:44:33 PM »
Who is better than Jack in the team? 
Harry Kane. Purely based on best player in the team regardless of position etc.
Absolute guff. Kane is a jaded shadow of the player he was.

Kane has just finished the 2020-21 season with 33 goals in 49 apps. He scored almost 10 more than he managed in the previous two before last season. His England stats are better than 1 in 2.

He looks like he's carrying a niggling injury to me.

As for Jack when he came on the other day he basically just hugged the touchline. I like him on the left, but he took himself out of most of that half hour by his awful positioning.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22480 on: June 19, 2021, 10:56:10 PM »
Who is better than Jack in the team? 
Harry Kane. Purely based on best player in the team regardless of position etc.
Absolute guff. Kane is a jaded shadow of the player he was.

Kane has just finished the 2020-21 season with 33 goals in 49 apps. He scored almost 10 more than he managed in the previous two before last season. His England stats are better than 1 in 2.

He looks like he's carrying a niggling injury to me.

As for Jack when he came on the other day he basically just hugged the touchline. I like him on the left, but he took himself out of most of that half hour by his awful positioning.
I'd be very surprised if he weren't out on the wing because he'd been instructed to. Jack wouldn't be able to restrain himself in Villa colours!

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22481 on: June 19, 2021, 11:06:53 PM »
Theres no comparison, When Jack turns up at a serial killer site with a game of scrabble, half a gateau and tries to put a condom on the loons dick, only then can they truly be compared.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22482 on: June 19, 2021, 11:15:41 PM »
The Telegraph are reporting that Spurs are ready to tell Kane he can't move to City, who think negotiations for Jack are 'expected to be more straightforward'. If the owners are serious about catching Spurs this year then they have to be as serious as Spurs about keeping the best players at the club. He's younger, he's as good, and he's even more important to us than he is to them. Can we start a social media campaign or something?

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22483 on: June 19, 2021, 11:19:03 PM »
Grealish will be infinitely more difficult to sign than Kane, unless there is a buy out clause of course. We have become ****** to deal with, Spurs need to pay for their fancy pint pouring mechanism.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22484 on: June 19, 2021, 11:21:44 PM »
Another weekend, another Grealish to Man City story…

I hope we tell those plastic blue toddlers where to stick it.

Toddlers was something else but I like the autocorrect it came out with.

 


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