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Offline paul_e

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22350 on: June 17, 2021, 11:09:05 PM »
Just asked my Son if he knows what an encyclopaedia is and he said No he doesnít have clue
Heís 13

heís towards the bottom in all his sets at school though so Iím not sure itís a true Representative test

Ah bless him. Might be a late developer.

Thanks mate you never know
Heís good at PE and History but thereís not a lot of call for the latter

I think History is actually one of the most useful subjects we teach but people don't realise that until years later. It's one of the few subjects (before university) where research and fact checking is important and those 2 skills are incredibly valuable in a lot of areas, taught well it gives you a great set of transferable skills.

Not sure there's much research and fact checking going on at school level, tbh, but I would agree, history is an important subject for kids to learn.

The sure sign of that in a subject is that the current government don't understand it's importance, the know-nothing fucking charlatans.

Another subject of hidden value is - and bear with me now - Latin. I did five years of it and considered it five wasted years, turns out it's actually quite useful linguistically.

No but it at least introduces them as concepts.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22351 on: June 17, 2021, 11:22:42 PM »
I studied a branch of History at university and you absolutely hone in on your sources. Really set me up to find the modern era of news fucking infuriating. Play the man and not the ball.

Back to topic. Grealish is good.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22352 on: June 18, 2021, 12:18:55 AM »
Not sure there's much research and fact checking going on at school level, tbh, but I would agree, history is an important subject for kids to learn.

The sure sign of that in a subject is that the current government don't understand it's importance, the know-nothing fucking charlatans.

Another subject of hidden value is - and bear with me now - Latin. I did five years of it and considered it five wasted years, turns out it's actually quite useful linguistically.

I wouldn't have minded doing Latin instead of French for 6 years.

In Ireland you do 7 subjects till you're 18, 3 of which are mandatory i.e. English, Irish & Maths. In my school, history, geography, a science subject and accounting/bookkeeping were mandatory till you were 16 but might not be the case now. IMO a better system as time enough specialising when you go to Uni.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22353 on: June 18, 2021, 12:30:26 AM »
Not sure there's much research and fact checking going on at school level, tbh, but I would agree, history is an important subject for kids to learn.

The sure sign of that in a subject is that the current government don't understand it's importance, the know-nothing fucking charlatans.

Another subject of hidden value is - and bear with me now - Latin. I did five years of it and considered it five wasted years, turns out it's actually quite useful linguistically.

I wouldn't have minded doing Latin instead of French for 6 years.

In Ireland you do 7 subjects till you're 18, 3 of which are mandatory i.e. English, Irish & Maths. In my school, history, geography, a science subject and accounting/bookkeeping were mandatory till you were 16 but might not be the case now. IMO a better system as time enough specialising when you go to Uni.

The later kids specialise the better, in my conceited, patronising opinion.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22354 on: June 18, 2021, 06:35:30 AM »
Just asked my Son if he knows what an encyclopaedia is and he said No he doesnít have clue
Heís 13

heís towards the bottom in all his sets at school though so Iím not sure itís a true Representative test

Ah bless him. Might be a late developer.

Thanks mate you never know
Heís good at PE and History but thereís not a lot of call for the latter
Just echoing others, but my mate's got a history degree and has never struggled to find jobs.

But more importantly, if he enjoys it that's the main thing. There's no better reason to do something than because it makes you happy, or sparks an interest.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22355 on: June 18, 2021, 06:56:35 AM »
Bruce's "tactic" when he eventually played Grealish on a regular basis was simply repeatedly shouting, "Give it to Jack!" A football dinosaur.

As opposed to his tactics as the Hull manager when it was ďTry and cripple him at every opportunityĒ.

Iíd love to see Jack involved tonight, especially against SJM, but feel it will be the same as Sunday. If England are level or up by one, he probably wonít get on. If theyíre losing or 3 up, heíll get 25 minutes.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22356 on: June 18, 2021, 07:41:17 AM »
Bruce's "tactic" when he eventually played Grealish on a regular basis was simply repeatedly shouting, "Give it to Jack!" A football dinosaur.

As opposed to his tactics as the Hull manager when it was ďTry and cripple him at every opportunityĒ.

Iíd love to see Jack involved tonight, especially against SJM, but feel it will be the same as Sunday. If England are level or up by one, he probably wonít get on. If theyíre losing or 3 up, heíll get 25 minutes.
I agree. He'll be a scapegoat in that scenario unless he does something amazing in that 25 min run out.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22357 on: June 18, 2021, 07:41:41 AM »
Iím not even het up about whether or not he plays now. Last Saturday was a massive disappointment, but now all I want is for him to be fighting fit for us in August.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22358 on: June 18, 2021, 07:48:27 AM »
Just asked my Son if he knows what an encyclopaedia is and he said No he doesnít have clue
Heís 13

heís towards the bottom in all his sets at school though so Iím not sure itís a true Representative test

Ah bless him. Might be a late developer.

Thanks mate you never know
Heís good at PE and History but thereís not a lot of call for the latter

I think History is actually one of the most useful subjects we teach but people don't realise that until years later. It's one of the few subjects (before university) where research and fact checking is important and those 2 skills are incredibly valuable in a lot of areas, taught well it gives you a great set of transferable skills.

Not sure there's much research and fact checking going on at school level, tbh, but I would agree, history is an important subject for kids to learn.

The sure sign of that in a subject is that the current government don't understand it's importance, the know-nothing fucking charlatans.

Another subject of hidden value is - and bear with me now - Latin. I did five years of it and considered it five wasted years, turns out it's actually quite useful linguistically.

The good old days of Ecce Romani.

I also did a bit of Ancient Greek, which was a bridge too far. I remember that hippopotaus comes from  "horse" "water" but not much else.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22359 on: June 18, 2021, 08:35:48 AM »
I shall ask the eldest four kids tomorrow if they know what an encyclopaedia is.

Prediction

15 year old - yes
13 year old - sort of
8 year old - no
6 year old - no

But then again, the eldest didn't know what a normal train looked liked like until she was about 6.

Results from the encyclopedia census at my end.

The six year old didn't know what it was, but when told said that she'd heard of them and someone in her book had talked about them.

The three year old though I was talking about a spider.
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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22360 on: June 18, 2021, 09:04:23 AM »
Just asked my Son if he knows what an encyclopaedia is and he said No he doesnít have clue
Heís 13

heís towards the bottom in all his sets at school though so Iím not sure itís a true Representative test

Ah bless him. Might be a late developer.

Thanks mate you never know
Heís good at PE and History but thereís not a lot of call for the latter

I think History is actually one of the most useful subjects we teach but people don't realise that until years later. It's one of the few subjects (before university) where research and fact checking is important and those 2 skills are incredibly valuable in a lot of areas, taught well it gives you a great set of transferable skills.

I agree. Some industry's like history graduates. They are researchers and analytical in their thinking. Banking, law and other industries value these skills. Yes I know he's 13 but history isn't a dead end and if he's good and interested in it so much the better. Good luck and good wishes to him 👍

Thanks
The History thing runs in the family itís my second greatest passion after the Villa and it seems to have rubbed off on my kids, both passions actually which isnít a bad thing

My eldest daughter studied History at UCL and is now a teacher

I agree with all the points people have made about History it helps understand that nothing happens today that hasnít happened before and we can and should learn from it but sadly we donít

But apart from that itís just a really great hobby (in my case) to enjoy

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22361 on: June 18, 2021, 09:13:40 AM »
Fortunately when I was at school quite a few years ago, there wasnt so much history as there as now, so less to learn. But a great subject. Still remember that the Romans came to Britain in 55BC

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22362 on: June 18, 2021, 09:23:19 AM »
Believe we will see him start tonight

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22363 on: June 18, 2021, 09:28:10 AM »
Heard the team is:

Pickford

James
Stones
Maguire
Shaw

Rice
Phillips

Sterling
Mount
SJG

Kane

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #22364 on: June 18, 2021, 09:36:33 AM »
Thats a very strong team and probably only 1 player different to my pick before the tournament started - I had Foden for Sterling, but I think he deserves to retain his place.  I was 50:50 Chilwell / Shaw so happy with either.

 


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