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Author Topic: Jack Grealish - for life?  (Read 1710053 times)

Offline PeterWithe

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #19215 on: November 24, 2020, 02:37:39 PM »
Is driving whilst on a phone a specific charge or is that covered by careless driving?

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #19216 on: November 24, 2020, 02:37:47 PM »
You would have thought he'd have been more careful so soon after the first offence.

So many footballers appear to be bad or careless drivers and often serial ones as well. Having powerful luxury cars doesn't help, and nor does having the money to hire lawyers who are expert at either getting them off or limiting the punishment.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #19217 on: November 24, 2020, 02:47:13 PM »
He has admitted his guilt to the two Careless driving charges AND he has had the failure to stop or report dismissed. So why is the Prosecutor going through loads of evidence for (according the the Evils minute by minute).

edit: as for the October 18th, again rightly done but he was going to a job that the government had deemed allowed so how could he "technically in breach of the ‘stay at home’ Coronavirus guidance at the time." And does careless driving trump speeding as he doesn't seem to have been charged with that.

TBH he deserves his ban and it sounds like he was lucky it wasn't more with the account from March but I'm still wondering why all the evidence if he has pleaded guilty.
it is standard practice to review the evidence even if a guilty plea is entered.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #19218 on: November 24, 2020, 02:52:29 PM »
From the BBC. (and on their Football page not the main Sport or News ones)

England footballer Jack Grealish has admitted two counts of careless driving.

The Aston Villa captain, 25, was charged with driving offences relating to two incidents this year.

The first was an accident involving his Range Rover in Dickens Heath, near Solihull, during lockdown on 29 March.

Court documents released before the hearing at Birmingham Magistrates' Court revealed a further incident near Villa's training ground on 18 October.

Grealish admitted another offence relating to an incident near Aston Villa's Bodymoor Heath training ground in Middleton, Warwickshire

Grealish, of Barnt Green, Worcestershire, was accused of driving without due care and attention on Bodymoor Heath Road - the site of his club's training complex in north Warwickshire - as well as on the M42 and the A446 on the same day.

The court heard he was seen tailgating other vehicles on the M42 and driving his Range Rover at 98 mph by police observing him in an unmarked vehicle.

He did not appear in court but entered his two guilty pleas through his lawyer.

Before the earlier incident in March, Grealish had issued a video appeal for people to stay at home to protect the NHS and save lives.

Two vehicles - a Citroen van and a Mercedes - were damaged in the accident, and as well as driving carelessly the footballer was charged with failing to stop at the scene and also failing to report it.

The footballer denied the two other charges, and the Crown Prosecution Service offered no evidence, so they were dismissed.

The court heard that Grealish, who already has six points on his licence for a 2018 speeding offence, could not attend court for sentencing, which was adjourned until 15 December.

District Judge John Bristow said the existing penalty points meant he could be at risk of a driving ban.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #19219 on: November 24, 2020, 02:59:10 PM »
He will be banned and have a heavy fine to pay.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #19220 on: November 24, 2020, 03:37:05 PM »
Wow - a fine and a ban - not a good example - he ought to have to do community service at least - he is a dick head behind the wheel of a car!

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #19221 on: November 24, 2020, 04:17:00 PM »
Wow - a fine and a ban - not a good example - he ought to have to do community service at least - he is a dick head behind the wheel of a car!

Hang on a bit, he hasn't been sentenced yet.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #19222 on: November 24, 2020, 04:27:35 PM »
Well, I didn't know Jack lives in Barnt Green. I lived there as a youngster, I doubt if he's in our old house though

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #19223 on: November 24, 2020, 04:36:43 PM »
He needs to grow up fast.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #19224 on: November 24, 2020, 04:40:58 PM »
He has grown up. This is post-growing up.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #19225 on: November 24, 2020, 04:46:34 PM »
heh. yeah I keep forgetting he's supposed to be in his mid-20s.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #19226 on: November 24, 2020, 04:53:59 PM »
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Grealish, of Barnt Green, Worcestershire, was accused of driving without due care and attention on Bodymoor Heath Road - the site of his club's training complex in north Warwickshire - as well as on the M42 and the A446 on the same day.

The court heard he was seen tailgating other vehicles on the M42 and driving his Range Rover at 98 mph by police observing him in an unmarked vehicle.

That's enough to get him a move to a much better team. Forget England, with driving like that he could play for Portugal.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #19227 on: November 24, 2020, 05:08:56 PM »
We build 'em up we knock 'em down.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #19228 on: November 24, 2020, 05:14:46 PM »
Is driving whilst on a phone a specific charge or is that covered by careless driving?

The former, although this only covers using the phone to 'interactively communicate' - in a case last year the High Court said it didn't apply to a driver using his phone to video a crash site, but new legislation will basically cover handling the phone for any purpose.

It could also be covered by driving carelessly, but makes it less a matter of opinion I suppose.

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Re: Jack Grealish - for life?
« Reply #19229 on: November 24, 2020, 05:19:53 PM »
Wow - a fine and a ban - not a good example - he ought to have to do community service at least - he is a dick head behind the wheel of a car!

Not possible for the offences - only carries a fine and points / discretionary disqualification.

Very unfairly, if you're unlucky enough to kill someone as a result of the exact same example of bad driving, you face a custodial sentence of up to five years (14 if under the influence of drink or drugs at the time).

 


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