The Takeover Thread - Recon Group - NOW WITH NEW POLL

[myf]

Something just doesn't feel right. high rolling magnates tend to have been heard of but nothing about this guy. We don't even know how much he or the company have got behind them. I don't like the biggest club in China spiel especially since we've just been hearing how the Chinese government are ploughing more money and time into building their own league and it's brand in China and worldwide. A businessman v The Chinese Government? I know where my money would be going.

I wonder if this is the reason Bernstein & King left? They knew Randy was leaning towards this guy and they couldn't support it?  Maybe ties in with them wanting an English manager rather than a tie in with Di Matteo. Obviously guessing at that bit. But, I don't know, this looks to me like the start of a long long way back as I don't fancy this in the slightest. If we become a club who changes owners as quick as some change managers we are in a lot of trouble.

Worried? Yep.

I've had that very thought, too.

If so why didnt they come out and express such concerns? Non-disclosure agreements maybe but they could do so now couldn't they?

[kippaxvilla2]

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.reconig.com/htm/about.htm&usg=ALkJrhhNpOnVIQRXp21Rd4DSRsXxh8TRYA

It would appear it is in fact Rui Kang after all!

[Jimbo]

Something just doesn't feel right. high rolling magnates tend to have been heard of but nothing about this guy. We don't even know how much he or the company have got behind them. I don't like the biggest club in China spiel especially since we've just been hearing how the Chinese government are ploughing more money and time into building their own league and it's brand in China and worldwide. A businessman v The Chinese Government? I know where my money would be going.

I wonder if this is the reason Bernstein & King left? They knew Randy was leaning towards this guy and they couldn't support it?  Maybe ties in with them wanting an English manager rather than a tie in with Di Matteo. Obviously guessing at that bit. But, I don't know, this looks to me like the start of a long long way back as I don't fancy this in the slightest. If we become a club who changes owners as quick as some change managers we are in a lot of trouble.

Worried? Yep.

I've had that very thought, too.

If so why didnt they come out and express such concerns? Non-disclosure agreements maybe but they could do so now couldn't they?

And didn't King say he was hopeful that the takeover would be completed in weeks, and that it would be positive? Why would he say that if he knew we were about to be taken over by a Chinese conman?

[chrisw1]

It's natural to be sceptical, but Hollis is no mug and will have done his homework on these guys.  And he probably doesn't need to use Google translate.

[peter w]

Dur. That's so page 893.

[pauliewalnuts]

The fact that they're Chinese doesn't automatically make them dodgy. And even if they are dodgy then remember our last was as honest as the day is long and he turned us into a bloody shambles.

I'm not sure anyone is suggesting that just because he's chinese that they're dodgy. If the most information you can find about someone is from the actual press release announcing their acquisition of the club, though, then people are naturally going to be suspicious.

Do this recon group even have a web site, for example?

I am not making any judgements based on the fact they're Chinese, it's just there aren't generally that many companies with 35,000 employees about whom there is nothing on the internet.

And the thought of Randy being the gatekeeper to keep shysters out scares the shit out of me.

teleperformance sell themselves as the biggest company that you've never heard of and they are huge. SAP also. So, that itself in isolation isn't the worry for me.

Are you suggesting SAP are a company we're not supposed to have heard of? Because if you are, you're talking about one of the biggest software companies on the planet.

[brian green]

Can't open it Kip. What does it say?

[Chris Smith]

With everything that has gone wrong over the past few years then we have to approach this with caution. However, that does not equate to immediately deciding that it is going to be a disaster. I have some expectation that Hollis is experienced enough to know a dodgy deal when he sees one and if not the scrutiny they will come under over the next few days will soon uncover any skeletons.

[kippaxvilla2]

So they are VC's then.

[peter w]

The fact that they're Chinese doesn't automatically make them dodgy. And even if they are dodgy then remember our last was as honest as the day is long and he turned us into a bloody shambles.

I'm not sure anyone is suggesting that just because he's chinese that they're dodgy. If the most information you can find about someone is from the actual press release announcing their acquisition of the club, though, then people are naturally going to be suspicious.

Do this recon group even have a web site, for example?

I am not making any judgements based on the fact they're Chinese, it's just there aren't generally that many companies with 35,000 employees about whom there is nothing on the internet.

And the thought of Randy being the gatekeeper to keep shysters out scares the shit out of me.

teleperformance sell themselves as the biggest company that you've never heard of and they are huge. SAP also. So, that itself in isolation isn't the worry for me.

Are you suggesting SAP are a company we're not supposed to have heard of? Because if you are, you're talking about one of the biggest software companies on the planet.

But they're aimed at businesses so unless you're in business and have a need for them you're unlikely to know much, if anything, about them.

[kippaxvilla2]

it's crap google translate but;

Group Overview

Joint Rui Kang (RECON)

The second economy (economic intelligence) industry practitioners, is committed to "smart +" technology and ideas to create intelligence from production to the new wisdom of life Economy Ecosystem industry and capital operation Group to become the second leading economy (economic wisdom ) industry development of new economic enterprises. Group including smart city and information industry, agriculture and health industry wisdom, intelligent transportation logistics and new energy industries, wisdom tourism and cultural industries, design and industrial engineering, innovative financial industry complete six major industry platform. Business around the world, as many as 22 independent brands, covering more than 500 cities in China and more than one third of the urban population, a total of more than 5,000 large and medium projects, including more than 400 cities in Metro Planning and construction of smart city , while modern technology as the support, to explore the industrial and economic development of a sustainable development model, to lead the global development trend of the second economy (economic intelligence) new model.
Chinese cultural wisdom technology +

Joint Rui Kang Group (RECON) has been insisting the spirit of change and novelty, since its inception, the United Rui Kang Group (RECON) founding team that is committed to the "wisdom of the modern theory and technology combined with traditional Chinese cultural values, practice", based on the in the smart city planning and construction, the wisdom of agriculture and health large industrial development, intelligence logistics and tourism platform construction and development of new energy and new materials in the field of play to financial capital and industrial entities interact communion efficiency, promote the wisdom of urban ecological formation of innovation emerge, to further improve the management and operation functions of the city, better public services, so that people travel more convenient, more livable environment, and jointly create wisdom and healthy life!
Internet + 'smart city strategy. "

RECON (United Rui Kang) "Internet +" smart city strategy genes, the city is big data cloud platform for public service entrance, integrate its smart city and business information group, the wisdom of agriculture and health industry business groups, transportation and logistics, and new wisdom energy industry business Group, wisdom, tourism and cultural industries business groups, industrial design and engineering and innovative financial industry business Group business Group, the joint provision of "smart city" one-stop solution for local governments. Real support stand in the perspective of the city comprehensive solution "urban disease" problems and achieve sustainable development of cities, urban economy provide a full chain solutions for urban management, urban operations, urban construction and industrial investment.

[Monty]

The fact that they're Chinese doesn't automatically make them dodgy. And even if they are dodgy then remember our last was as honest as the day is long and he turned us into a bloody shambles.

I'm not sure anyone is suggesting that just because he's chinese that they're dodgy. If the most information you can find about someone is from the actual press release announcing their acquisition of the club, though, then people are naturally going to be suspicious.

Do this recon group even have a web site, for example?

I am not making any judgements based on the fact they're Chinese, it's just there aren't generally that many companies with 35,000 employees about whom there is nothing on the internet.

And the thought of Randy being the gatekeeper to keep shysters out scares the shit out of me.

teleperformance sell themselves as the biggest company that you've never heard of and they are huge. SAP also. So, that itself in isolation isn't the worry for me.

Are you suggesting SAP are a company we're not supposed to have heard of? Because if you are, you're talking about one of the biggest software companies on the planet.

But they're aimed at businesses so unless you're in business and have a need for them you're unlikely to know much, if anything, about them.

Yes, but Paulie's point is that the briefest google search will tell you all you need to know about them, whereas Xia seems to have sprung into existence basically today.

[Lastfootstamper]

The fact that they're Chinese doesn't automatically make them dodgy. And even if they are dodgy then remember our last was as honest as the day is long and he turned us into a bloody shambles.

I'm not sure anyone is suggesting that just because he's chinese that they're dodgy. If the most information you can find about someone is from the actual press release announcing their acquisition of the club, though, then people are naturally going to be suspicious.

Do this recon group even have a web site, for example?

I am not making any judgements based on the fact they're Chinese, it's just there aren't generally that many companies with 35,000 employees about whom there is nothing on the internet.

And the thought of Randy being the gatekeeper to keep shysters out scares the shit out of me.

teleperformance sell themselves as the biggest company that you've never heard of and they are huge. SAP also. So, that itself in isolation isn't the worry for me.

Are you suggesting SAP are a company we're not supposed to have heard of? Because if you are, you're talking about one of the biggest software companies on the planet.

It's worked. Never heard of them. But then, why would I?

[pauliewalnuts]

The fact that they're Chinese doesn't automatically make them dodgy. And even if they are dodgy then remember our last was as honest as the day is long and he turned us into a bloody shambles.

I'm not sure anyone is suggesting that just because he's chinese that they're dodgy. If the most information you can find about someone is from the actual press release announcing their acquisition of the club, though, then people are naturally going to be suspicious.

Do this recon group even have a web site, for example?

I am not making any judgements based on the fact they're Chinese, it's just there aren't generally that many companies with 35,000 employees about whom there is nothing on the internet.

And the thought of Randy being the gatekeeper to keep shysters out scares the shit out of me.

teleperformance sell themselves as the biggest company that you've never heard of and they are huge. SAP also. So, that itself in isolation isn't the worry for me.

Are you suggesting SAP are a company we're not supposed to have heard of? Because if you are, you're talking about one of the biggest software companies on the planet.

But they're aimed at businesses so unless you're in business and have a need for them you're unlikely to know much, if anything, about them.

Not sure I follow that line of argument.

There's next to zero about Recon Group or Tony Xiao on the internet. There is shedloads of stuff about SAP (who are immense) and teleperformance (who I'll take your word on) out there. If you had never heard of either of those companies, a quick google and you're clued up.

Recon Group, and the owner himself, is an almost total dead end.

That's not saying it'll be a disaster, I'm just raising an eyebrow at the fact we know zilch about these people, and the person making the decision to sell to them is the same person who has managed to sell a club for less than he paid for at after a decade of huge money coming into the game, and whose previous judgements on people have been proven to be utterly disastrous.

[German James]

it's crap google translate but;

Group Overview

Joint Rui Kang (RECON)

The second economy (economic intelligence) industry practitioners, is committed to "smart +" technology and ideas to create intelligence from production to the new wisdom of life Economy Ecosystem industry and capital operation Group to become the second leading economy (economic wisdom ) industry development of new economic enterprises. Group including smart city and information industry, agriculture and health industry wisdom, intelligent transportation logistics and new energy industries, wisdom tourism and cultural industries, design and industrial engineering, innovative financial industry complete six major industry platform. Business around the world, as many as 22 independent brands, covering more than 500 cities in China and more than one third of the urban population, a total of more than 5,000 large and medium projects, including more than 400 cities in Metro Planning and construction of smart city , while modern technology as the support, to explore the industrial and economic development of a sustainable development model, to lead the global development trend of the second economy (economic intelligence) new model.
Chinese cultural wisdom technology +

Joint Rui Kang Group (RECON) has been insisting the spirit of change and novelty, since its inception, the United Rui Kang Group (RECON) founding team that is committed to the "wisdom of the modern theory and technology combined with traditional Chinese cultural values, practice", based on the in the smart city planning and construction, the wisdom of agriculture and health large industrial development, intelligence logistics and tourism platform construction and development of new energy and new materials in the field of play to financial capital and industrial entities interact communion efficiency, promote the wisdom of urban ecological formation of innovation emerge, to further improve the management and operation functions of the city, better public services, so that people travel more convenient, more livable environment, and jointly create wisdom and healthy life!
Internet + 'smart city strategy. "

RECON (United Rui Kang) "Internet +" smart city strategy genes, the city is big data cloud platform for public service entrance, integrate its smart city and business information group, the wisdom of agriculture and health industry business groups, transportation and logistics, and new wisdom energy industry business Group, wisdom, tourism and cultural industries business groups, industrial design and engineering and innovative financial industry business Group business Group, the joint provision of "smart city" one-stop solution for local governments. Real support stand in the perspective of the city comprehensive solution "urban disease" problems and achieve sustainable development of cities, urban economy provide a full chain solutions for urban management, urban operations, urban construction and industrial investment.

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