The Takeover Thread - Recon Group - NOW WITH NEW POLL

[papa lazarou]

Nursey reckons a Chinese consortium have tabled a bid.

Consortium - now that's a word that I'm not enthusiastic about in the context of a takeover.

[IAmTheOneIanOlney]

Nursey reckons a Chinese consortium have tabled a bid.

Hypothetical, but if that is true and we end up with Chinese owners, I wonder how most Villa fans will feel about it?
Would large sections of support be affected by things like China's appalling human rights record, press, print and internet censorship and gag orders, restricted religious freedom, ethnic cleansing, subjugation of unions, etc, or does it not matter if they keep the cash flowing and improve the team?

Or is it not fair to link the business to the ruling system?

Not particularly professing a standpoint, just interested what others think.

[PaulWinch again]

Nursey reckons a Chinese consortium have tabled a bid.

Hypothetical, but if that is true and we end up with Chinese owners, I wonder how most Villa fans will feel about it?
Would large sections of support be affected by things like China's appalling human rights record, press, print and internet censorship and gag orders, restricted religious freedom, ethnic cleansing, subjugation of unions, etc, or does it not matter if they keep the cash flowing and improve the team?

Or is it not fair to link the business to the ruling system?

Not particularly professing a standpoint, just interested what others think.

I think you probably have to assess every individual/group on their own merits.

[Percy McCarthy]

Nursey reckons a Chinese consortium have tabled a bid.

Hypothetical, but if that is true and we end up with Chinese owners, I wonder how most Villa fans will feel about it?
Would large sections of support be affected by things like China's appalling human rights record, press, print and internet censorship and gag orders, restricted religious freedom, ethnic cleansing, subjugation of unions, etc, or does it not matter if they keep the cash flowing and improve the team?

Or is it not fair to link the business to the ruling system?

Not particularly professing a standpoint, just interested what others think.

I've heard a lot of people (in real life, not on here) complaining that any Chinese takeove would be a disaster because of the excellent job Carson Yeung did on da blooz.

[Brend'Watkins]

Nursey reckons a Chinese consortium have tabled a bid.

Hypothetical, but if that is true and we end up with Chinese owners, I wonder how most Villa fans will feel about it?
Would large sections of support be affected by things like China's appalling human rights record, press, print and internet censorship and gag orders, restricted religious freedom, ethnic cleansing, subjugation of unions, etc, or does it not matter if they keep the cash flowing and improve the team?

Or is it not fair to link the business to the ruling system?

Not particularly professing a standpoint, just interested what others think.

I smother hoisin sauce over a pancake and then perfectly place fatty bits of crispy fried duck on top along with some shredded spring onion and slices of cucumber, as I fold the pancake edges over the combined contents and then begin to take the first bite a thought comes into my head.  I shouldn't have ordered the shredded beef.

There has to be some very good and decent Chinese people considering there's nearly 1.4 billion of them. Some of these might be incredibly wealthy too.  If they want to invest in Birmingham as they are doing and that also means buying a football club therein then why not?     

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

Euromillions jackpot is about £82 million this week. I suggest that we invest in a ticket or two to enable a buy out. Should be enough for a down payment anyway.
First thing I'll do as boss is ban half and half scarves within a five mile radius of the hallowed turf.

[Toronto Villa]

Nursey reckons a Chinese consortium have tabled a bid.

Hypothetical, but if that is true and we end up with Chinese owners, I wonder how most Villa fans will feel about it?
Would large sections of support be affected by things like China's appalling human rights record, press, print and internet censorship and gag orders, restricted religious freedom, ethnic cleansing, subjugation of unions, etc, or does it not matter if they keep the cash flowing and improve the team?

Or is it not fair to link the business to the ruling system?

Not particularly professing a standpoint, just interested what others think.

Not comparing Britain to China directly but its not like some of our history is anything to be proud of either. And I am sure just like in Britain, and Germany and China not every person condones the things that take place and have taken place. We should be really careful before making sweeping generalizations about people of any country as like us as individuals they might have a variety of views, not all supporting what their governments have done or do.

[godzvilla]

The ´word on the street´, here on the ´Costa del Inglés´, is that, Paul Smith is meeting with Randy today, in the US.
From the crumbs that I have gathered, Smith and his consortium are willing to pay approx 145mil up front with Randy carrying the rest as a loan against the Club ( 1st call?).
This is all very tenuous and 2nd hand but,what the heck, its all grist to the takeover mill................Godzvilla!

[paul_e]

Nursey reckons a Chinese consortium have tabled a bid.

Hypothetical, but if that is true and we end up with Chinese owners, I wonder how most Villa fans will feel about it?
Would large sections of support be affected by things like China's appalling human rights record, press, print and internet censorship and gag orders, restricted religious freedom, ethnic cleansing, subjugation of unions, etc, or does it not matter if they keep the cash flowing and improve the team?

Or is it not fair to link the business to the ruling system?

Not particularly professing a standpoint, just interested what others think.

I smother hoisin sauce over a pancake and then perfectly place fatty bits of crispy fried duck on top along with some shredded spring onion and slices of cucumber, as I fold the pancake edges over the combined contents and then begin to take the first bite a thought comes into my head.  I shouldn't have ordered the shredded beef.

There has to be some very good and decent Chinese people considering there's nearly 1.4 billion of them. Some of these might be incredibly wealthy too.  If they want to invest in Birmingham as they are doing and that also means buying a football club therein then why not?     

I think the last sentence is the bit that makes chinese links (including a consortium) seem legitimate, we know that the city has been fostering those links with the direct flights and the stories of investment in projects around the city.  As Jimbo points out regularly on the Birmingham news thread one of the keys to making the most of all the investment is to give people reasons to come back.  A world class football club does that, especially if it comes with a facility that celebrates the club in terms of its involvement in the development of the game.  I'd think our new owners being Chinese when it happens is probably the most likely outcome, unless Randy insists on a sale 'in the west', without that level of intervention it just makes sense in the context of the city and local politics.  If nothing else China owes the city a decent football club owner.

On the ethical side of things, to me anyone who is a billionaire is likely to be morally dubious, gathering that much wealth takes a certain type of personality, regardless of where you were born or live.  If we want to have the money to compete at the top end of the league we have to accept that it almost certainly won't come without ethical baggage.

[LeeB]

The ´word on the street´, here on the ´Costa del Inglés´, is that, Paul Smith is meeting with Randy today, in the US.
From the crumbs that I have gathered, Smith and his consortium are willing to pay approx 145mil up front with Randy carrying the rest as a loan against the Club ( 1st call?).
This is all very tenuous and 2nd hand but,what the heck, its all grist to the takeover mill................Godzvilla!

I'd worry that Paul Smith would just trouser our cash.

[Clampy]

How many consortium's has Nursey linked us with so far?

[exigo]

The ´word on the street´, here on the ´Costa del Inglés´, is that, Paul Smith is meeting with Randy today, in the US.
From the crumbs that I have gathered, Smith and his consortium are willing to pay approx 145mil up front with Randy carrying the rest as a loan against the Club ( 1st call?).
This is all very tenuous and 2nd hand but,what the heck, its all grist to the takeover mill................Godzvilla!

I'd worry that Paul Smith would just trouser our cash.

Not sure about the new home shirt either. Clicky.

[PaulWinch again]

The ´word on the street´, here on the ´Costa del Inglés´, is that, Paul Smith is meeting with Randy today, in the US.
From the crumbs that I have gathered, Smith and his consortium are willing to pay approx 145mil up front with Randy carrying the rest as a loan against the Club ( 1st call?).
This is all very tenuous and 2nd hand but,what the heck, its all grist to the takeover mill................Godzvilla!

Doesn't sound like said consortium is exactly awash with cash.

[not3bad]

Nursey reckons a Chinese consortium have tabled a bid.

Hypothetical, but if that is true and we end up with Chinese owners, I wonder how most Villa fans will feel about it?
Would large sections of support be affected by things like China's appalling human rights record, press, print and internet censorship and gag orders, restricted religious freedom, ethnic cleansing, subjugation of unions, etc, or does it not matter if they keep the cash flowing and improve the team?

Or is it not fair to link the business to the ruling system?

Not particularly professing a standpoint, just interested what others think.

Well I didn't blame Randy Lerner for the illegal wars, climate denial, right wing christian fundamentalism, junk food, nazi like police force, slavery, TTIP and genocide of the native population.

[cdbearsfan]

That Frederick Rinder was a bastard. I hold him personally responsible for the British Empire's concentration camps during the Boer War, the suppression of trades unions and the refusal to give women the vote.