Aston Villa v West Ham United Post-Match Thread

[supertom]

We had enough chances to win this game today but didn't get the breaks you need. It's a shame that Delph our best player  made the dreadful mistake for their second but this was their day today after the Carroll kerfuffle tat went on all week.

We were dreadful and got what we deserved- take off your blinkers!

No we were not and I was at Villa Park and not wearing blinkers. I am sorry it's my fault as   I could have been watching a poor stream and joined the armchair brigade in  condemnation.

what a silly post .   

Sometimes you need to be at the game to get the vibe.

That's partly true but in this case, or indeed most home games for the last 3-4 years, that vibe is all too obvious, whether you're sat in the Holte or sat at home distracting yourself with the pop ups of naked ladies which are interrupting your stream.
I imagine the negative vibe around Villa Park is one of the few things which are visible from space.

[Ron Manager]

I have concluded that a sizeable percentage of the Villa support have accepted that we are likely to be mediocre for most of the time. Its what we expect Im afraid. For months before Pat and Doug took over the club in the late sixties it was exactly like this.

I personally couldnt care less whether Lerner is there or not. It doesnt matter.

However Lambert has got away with with these performances for so long I just dont know.  Unless the season ticket holders refuse to renew
en masse I cannot see how things will change.

Its all very depressing isn't it?

[brian green]

My view exactly RM  I am just another old timer who does not care one way or another if Lerner owns the club or not.   It does not matter.   What matters is what goes on on the pitch in matches.

While we have a manager who goes through the motions of being "modern" and "progressive" and allows twenty passes to be made without gaining a yard of ground and then, not having gained a yard of ground launching to ball forward, we will be no hopers.

Managers like Lambert see how the top, top sides string passes together and assume that is all you have to do but there is infinitely more to it than that.   Passing the pall sideways without penetration is like steak and chips without the steak.   Once Marc came on yesterday possession became a platform for penetration.   You have to have players with the skills to get behind the opposition and make them defend their goal facing it like we were doing most of the first half and the first ten minutes of the second.   Rocket science it ain't.

[jeowje]

There was a worry amongst a significant number of us after the TSM season that Lerner might, due to this apparent apathy, not wield the axe. If we continue our slide and are relegated, or close to, without the fans backing Lambert will not survive either. If it is indeed true that he has had money and chosen not to spend it, we may get the injection we need as well as a new manager. Be positive!

[saunders_heroes]

There was a worry amongst a significant number of us after the TSM season that Lerner might, due to this apparent apathy, not wield the axe. If we continue our slide and are relegated, or close to, without the fans backing Lambert will not survive either. If it is indeed true that he has had money and chosen not to spend it, we may get the injection we need as well as a new manager. Be positive!

It's hard to be positive when you've just witnessed our 8th defeat in 13 home games.

[ez]

It bothers me that we were poor in the first half but came out for the second unchanged. It makes me think as long as it's 0-0 Lambert will do nothing even if we are being outplayed by a club below us. It shouldn't be like that.

[VillaAlways]

It bothers me that we were poor in the first half but came out for the second unchanged. It makes me think as long as it's 0-0 Lambert will do nothing even if we are being outplayed by a club below us. It shouldn't be like that.

I thought we were very fortunate to go in at 0-0 . How many corners did we give away in the first half? I lost count.

[JUAN PABLO]

We had enough chances to win this game today but didn't get the breaks you need. It's a shame that Delph our best player  made the dreadful mistake for their second but this was their day today after the Carroll kerfuffle tat went on all week.

We were dreadful and got what we deserved- take off your blinkers!

No we were not and I was at Villa Park and not wearing blinkers. I am sorry it's my fault as   I could have been watching a poor stream and joined the armchair brigade in  condemnation.

what a silly post .   

Sometimes you need to be at the game to get the vibe.

Six games i've been to this season and we haven't won any of them. Those vibes ey, although there's nothing better than being at the match regardless of the result.

I admit Ive only been to 4 games and it would have been nice to get one point , I did see a goal against Newcastle thou .

And I admit Ive turned down 4 games free of charge .   

[JUAN PABLO]

I've read through most of the posts here with the immediate post match ones showing the inevitable frustrations and the later ones more considered.

Me I still feel strangely numbed.  I was at the game today and can't understand the views including lamberts that we were "fine" in the first half. To me we created nothing and were vert fortunate to go in level. But I took heart that we hadn't conceded and felt sure we would come out fired up for the second half. How wrong I was.  Wet Spam looked like the home team for the first half and till they were 2-0 up. We didn't start to try playing till then.

I recognise the limited budget and quality of the players but they are all Lamberts choice. If he can't motivate them - and clearly he can't - until we are two down there is
Little hope.  The weaknesses are recognised by all on here why not lambert? 

I can see ST sales massively down in  starting with mine. I don't mind the long journey and recognise that outside the top six which we now demonstrably are we have zero chance of glory but I expect effort, passion and an attempt to play football. Strangely PL sees this every home game but I rarely do. Maybe I'm in the wrong seats?

I do think there are 3 worse teams but I can't take much more

well, I posted earlier that I thought we were toothless in the first half but in the second the Beast should have had a hat trick. Through the game, we did only have one shot on target, but we had 10 off, of which two strikes were on the woodwork. We also had over 60% possession.
The frustration for me was that in the first half, if Weimann and Gabby had run the channels a little more, and got wide more often, we'd have had more chance to really open up the flaky Hammers defence. Instead, we were horribly static upfront and I really didn't get what Weimann's brief was.

We were poor, but we could and should have won that game with something to spare.

could have done  but didnt again

dont forgot Downings miss kick and his other chance , Jarvis had a good and bacuna blocked off the line  , Lambert set it up wrong AGAIN and we deserved nothing , again got beat at home by a poor side.

[Legion]

MotD

[Dribbler]

I met som eone today who had made a 12,000 mile round trip. Beat that.

?

Who is that? Can I have a clue please?

I've started calling him 'the ironically named owner', because he never seems to ****ing learn!

[Dr_Fegg]

Unbelieveably, no strike that, believeably poor (if you've been unfortunate to have an ST).

I've been on the fence about Lambert but I am sick to death of seeing;

1) A 3 man front line you can throw a blanket over they are so close - Guys the pitch is wider than the fucking 18 yd box.
How much space is there on the flanks - I have sympathy for whoevers at LB and RB as when they get the ball and look up theres no option.

2) Why do we need 11 players back to defend a corner - FFS Lamber put one player in the centre circle and take 2 of theirs out.
No lets get everyone back and have 100% of the pressure on our team (as they've proved they can handle it - NOT) then when we do clear lets give the oposition time to put the ball back in.

Someone said earlier insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. I know 4-4-2 isnt "fashionable" but what we've tried for the last 2 season hasnt worked so can we not at least try or even just start with it and give Albrighton a go.

One final point. I now Gabby is Villa through and through but everytime we give him the armband he has a shit game. We so badly needed an experienced leader out there yesterday it was excrutiating to watch. Give it to Delph, give it to Guzan, fuck give it to Clark but not Gabby just becuase he's the most senior.

Still only 6 more games to go......

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Unbelieveably, no strike that, believeably poor (if you've been unfortunate to have an ST).

I've been on the fence about Lambert but I am sick to death of seeing;

1) A 3 man front line you can throw a blanket over they are so close - Guys the pitch is wider than the fucking 18 yd box.
How much space is there on the flanks - I have sympathy for whoevers at LB and RB as when they get the ball and look up theres no option.

2) Why do we need 11 players back to defend a corner - FFS Lamber put one player in the centre circle and take 2 of theirs out.
No lets get everyone back and have 100% of the pressure on our team (as they've proved they can handle it - NOT) then when we do clear lets give the oposition time to put the ball back in.

Someone said earlier insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. I know 4-4-2 isnt "fashionable" but what we've tried for the last 2 season hasnt worked so can we not at least try or even just start with it and give Albrighton a go.

One final point. I now Gabby is Villa through and through but everytime we give him the armband he has a shit game. We so badly needed an experienced leader out there yesterday it was excrutiating to watch. Give it to Delph, give it to Guzan, fuck give it to Clark but not Gabby just becuase he's the most senior.

Still only 6 more games to go......

Point 2 - I'm sure we've scored from breaking out from corners previously from not having anyone forward. Arsenal being one.

[JUAN PABLO]

Mourinho always has two players up when defending corning - just saying

[preston28]

200 mile round trip in foul weather to watch that inept excuse for entertainment. I can't see why Lambert can't see what 90% of the fans can:
No width
No creative midfield
Poor defence.
Why doesn't Albrighton start?
Why was Lucuna not subbed?

Credit to the Villa fans - very passive about the faecal material served up at VP & more so then manager.

Back to the wine.

If you are the fella I spoke to in the Holte car park I should have said how much I respect you doing that trip - I only travel 30 miles - respect and commiserations ;-)

Not me I'm afraid. However I'll guess my 200 mile round trip is only 6-8 times per year. Some on here go every week!

What is it with Preston and Villa? ;-)

[/quote]

Good place to be a Villa supporter - 100 miles down the M6 - easy!  I just never went back after leaving the Midlands but cant let go of the apron strings! My son deserves a big pat on the back - Lancashire born but Villa  through & through despite the lure of Man Ure, Citeh etc.