The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[WarszaVillan]

What also terrifies me, is what decent Manager is going to want to come here working under the current board?

From the outside looking in, surely it looks like we've taken a young up and coming guy from Norwich, and ruined him.

I know what you mean. We're a graveyard for managers.

The only manager in my life-time who has gone on to a 'bigger' job was Graham Taylor, and that didn't work out very well.

[walsall villain]

I can't get over the brass neck of Faulkner telling me that I should back the team on Saturday - wtf do you think I was doing since before you were born! Then he says we do it every week anyway - so what is the point of saying it you patronising twat!

I know what you mean but there are times when the crowd roar in defiance when we are losing, as after we were two nil down in no time at home to the baggies. Other times there is a collective slump in the seats or a dash for a pint. We need the former for the last two games.

[N'ZMAV]

No way will Lambert be here next season. He walked out on Norwich, now if certain 'promises' have been broken here, he'll walk.... hopefully.

[Jon Crofts]

From 33/1 to 10/1 to be sacked at a lot of bookies just today following that statement.  Clearly they read more into it than I did.

[mr underhill]

that's probably due to the £5 I put on him earlier. It doesn't take much  wedge to shift odds on manager's getting the heave-ho.

[Lizz]

We were mentioned in the sport headlines in the R5 5pm news bulletin, but I only caught the end of it.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Matt Kendrick's report from Crystal Palace.  He doesn't pull any punches.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/match-reports/crystal-palace-1-aston-villa-6984043

Nail on head. Excellent article from young Kendrick. Sums up perfectly the current mess.

[dicedlam]

No way will Lambert be here next season. He walked out on Norwich, now if certain 'promises' have been broken here, he'll walk.... hopefully.

Yeah, but when he walked out on Norwich it was straight into another job.

[KevinGage]

FWIW I don't think they will sack him, either. I think there's pretty much no chance of that happening.

Disagree.

Whether RL 'cares' or not is a different thing.   The amount of time he has spent away from the club certainly gives credence to the notion that he has lost interest.

I honestly think they believe in Lambert, whereas they didn't in McLeish, hence the difference.

I genuinely think that when they go on about young and hungry etc etc, they actually believe they're doing something innovative. I also believe they think that if they just want something to happen enough, then it will happen. They're really that naive.

I don't think, for example, that it has much occurred to them that there are actually plenty of teams that have tried to bob along cheaply, and they almost always go down eventually.

Really, I think they are that delusional, and that clueless. I think they are good intentioned, I think Randy is a good person who wants the best for the club, but I think they are utterly clueless in what they are doing.

And when I think back to how much I used to support Lerner and co, how pro-them I was on here, and look at the way my trust and confidence in them has totally collapsed, I find it more than a bit depressing.

What also terrifies me, is what decent Manager is going to want to come here working under the current board?

From the outside looking in, surely it looks like we've taken a young up and coming guy from Norwich, and ruined him.

I get what you mean. Hopefully it won't come to that, and his ex club up north will spare us all a continuation of this mess. 

I do actually quite like the bloke, I don't think he's a bullshitter or blagger, like some of the conmen we have appointed. 

A few years up there and a stint in Europe would help to rebuild his reputation. He is young enough to still turn it around.   

But the Villa job looks too big for him at present, and whilst many of us were happy to go the young, up and coming manager route, there was always a danger this would occur.  It was a risk worth taking, just a shame it hasn't worked out.

Our next manager probably won't be someone who has shown a steady, straight line of progression in their career to date.  But when you see the likes of Laudrup, Koeman and Rijkaard currently out of work, it doesn't mean we have to opt for some complete shithouse at the other end of the scale either.

[Witton Warrior]

I can't get over the brass neck of Faulkner telling me that I should back the team on Saturday - wtf do you think I was doing since before you were born! Then he says we do it every week anyway - so what is the point of saying it you patronising twat!

I know what you mean but there are times when the crowd roar in defiance when we are losing, as after we were two nil down in no time at home to the baggies. Other times there is a collective slump in the seats or a dash for a pint. We need the former for the last two games.

Then they need to give us something WV - anything! We get behind them at the least invitation because we want to - if they are doing their usual headless chicken routine it is difficult to cheer without sounding sarcastic ;-)

[ciggiesnbeer]

What also terrifies me, is what decent Manager is going to want to come here working under the current board?

Bielsa is brilliant and so insane he might take the job.

[London Villan]

Perhaps the manager would have been advised not to tell the fans to "f*ck off" during the Norwich match and his assistant probably shouldn't be calling the fans "f*cking morons".

If he also had been as honest as he was in the last interview he might have had a bit more support due to him taking some personal responsibility for the embarrassments we have had to sit through.

[Billy Walker]

I can't get over the brass neck of Faulkner telling me that I should back the team on Saturday - wtf do you think I was doing since before you were born! Then he says we do it every week anyway - so what is the point of saying it you patronising twat!

I know what you mean but there are times when the crowd roar in defiance when we are losing, as after we were two nil down in no time at home to the baggies. Other times there is a collective slump in the seats or a dash for a pint. We need the former for the last two games.

Then they need to give us something WV - anything! We get behind them at the least invitation because we want to - if they are doing their usual headless chicken routine it is difficult to cheer without sounding sarcastic ;-)

Surely the moment they are running around like headless chickens is the moment they need big support?  The sarcastic cheers don't just drain the players of confidence, they drain the hope from the rest of the fans.  On top of that, the opposition feed off it and get an extra spring in their step - it's just totally self defeating.

[AV82EC]

What also terrifies me, is what decent Manager is going to want to come here working under the current board?

Bielsa is brilliant and so insane he might take the job.

My trousers would literally explode if Bielsa came to Villa. Fortunately for the rest of you this is about as likely as Selma Hayek giving me a t.... Well you get the analogy.

[sirlordbaltimore]

If Faulkner wants everyone to pull together i'm pretty sure I can think of a way that can be achieved before Saturday.

Remove the problem (well one of them anyway) and give everyone a lift that something just might be different on the pitch when we trot out a 3pm