The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[ez]

The contract talks have been wisely put on hold as when it was first mooted we were losing to West Ham and Newcastle.

There's nothing set in stone that talks will be reopened. Say we finished this season 17th (our worst ever prem finish) with something like 36 points (our worst ever premier league points tally) then you have grounds for a sacking right there.

At this point in time i'd say he's closer to the sack than a new contract.

[LeeB]

I just don't get why the numbers at the top are so screwed to keeping him. Please, someone, tell me how he could be doing any worse than he is. How can anyone still want him here. U were all so quick to nail into big eck, be careful what you wish for...

Lee B was telling me on here only last week how all his friends are happy with Lambert so perhaps he could find out from them and let us know?

With respect Richard, that's about the third post on this thread so far where you seem to be revelling in fact you lost faith quicker than others.

I had you down as better than that.


Edit; And now I've just read you have another pop on the match thread. What's your problem?

[rob_bridge]

I think if you look at the players currently with us who are not - currently - good enough, it is quite frightening.

I tend to agree. 20m will be not nearly enough.

The only ones good enough are Guzan, Vlaar, Delph and Benteke. Westwood, Okore and Kozak are maybes.

The rest are not.

[mike]

He can spot potential and he has got more out them than their original value in the case of a number of players. What he has failed to do is ensure that some of those players maintain their initial development. He has also failed to implement any consistent system or style of play thus again hampering the development of the players. Our players have become one dimensional, where when it is going to plan it looks good, when it isn't they look lost and devoid of any ideas on how to correct a situation.

I don't disagree but (and this really isn't a pop at you because we all need to stick together right now) I think he has found some third rate players and turned them into second rate players. He may have increased their value, but fundamentally they're not good enough.

[Toronto Villa]

I just don't get why the numbers at the top are so screwed to keeping him. Please, someone, tell me how he could be doing any worse than he is. How can anyone still want him here. U were all so quick to nail into big eck, be careful what you wish for...

Lee B was telling me on here only last week how all his friends are happy with Lambert so perhaps he could find out from them and let us know?

With respect Richard, that's about the third post on this thread so far where you seem to be revelling in fact you lost faith quicker than others.

I had you down as better than that.

I was thinking the same thing. Nobody should be happy that this is happening and everyone should have wanted him to succeed. You'd think that those of us that might have had a different approach are somewhat embarrassed by our position. I'm not, I'm just massively disappointed.

[Toronto Villa]

He can spot potential and he has got more out them than their original value in the case of a number of players. What he has failed to do is ensure that some of those players maintain their initial development. He has also failed to implement any consistent system or style of play thus again hampering the development of the players. Our players have become one dimensional, where when it is going to plan it looks good, when it isn't they look lost and devoid of any ideas on how to correct a situation.

I don't disagree but (and this really isn't a pop at you because we all need to stick together right now) I think he has found some third rate players and turned them into second rate players. He may have increased their value, but fundamentally they're not good enough.

Some of them are good enough others clearly are not. I think a few of them are PL players but once you get beyond those players the rest of the squad is found wanting. Add in a few injuries and we just look so poor.

[bertlambshank]

I just don't get why the numbers at the top are so screwed to keeping him. Please, someone, tell me how he could be doing any worse than he is. How can anyone still want him here. U were all so quick to nail into big eck, be careful what you wish for...

Lee B was telling me on here only last week how all his friends are happy with Lambert so perhaps he could find out from them and let us know?

With respect Richard, that's about the third post on this thread so far where you seem to be revelling in fact you lost faith quicker than others.

I had you down as better than that.

I was thinking the same thing. Nobody should be happy that this is happening and everyone should have wanted him to succeed. You'd think that those of us that might have had a different approach are somewhat embarrassed by our position. I'm not, I'm just massively disappointed.

For balance there a fair few posters who have been taking delight in telling the Lambert out's how wrong they are,and they tend to hunt in packs.

[Louzie0]

He can spot potential and he has got more out them than their original value in the case of a number of players. What he has failed to do is ensure that some of those players maintain their initial development. He has also failed to implement any consistent system or style of play thus again hampering the development of the players. Our players have become one dimensional, where when it is going to plan it looks good, when it isn't they look lost and devoid of any ideas on how to correct a situation.

I know the buck stops etc but is it really all down to him, practically? They train. They are coached.  I know Lambert chooses the coaches, but beyond that, could there anybody in the training set up that is draining our players of confidence in their undoubted abilities?

We wouldn't have signed them unless they showed they could play a bit.

 Apart from the well quoted successes on here, some of the team's individual performances, not necessarily throughout matches, have reflected technical ineptitude, overcompensating or going missing and a lack of ability to make choices.  In other contexts, that would reflect anxiety.

This is happening away as well as at home.

Somebody or maybe more than one somebody is not supporting our players. Or our manager.

Having said that last though, god. Why not Robinson?

[pooligan]

And still the unwanted records come to the surface. It has just been stated on Talksport that no other Premier League team have conceded the first goal more than Villa this season. 12 times!

[Toronto Villa]

I just don't get why the numbers at the top are so screwed to keeping him. Please, someone, tell me how he could be doing any worse than he is. How can anyone still want him here. U were all so quick to nail into big eck, be careful what you wish for...

Lee B was telling me on here only last week how all his friends are happy with Lambert so perhaps he could find out from them and let us know?

With respect Richard, that's about the third post on this thread so far where you seem to be revelling in fact you lost faith quicker than others.

I had you down as better than that.

I was thinking the same thing. Nobody should be happy that this is happening and everyone should have wanted him to succeed. You'd think that those of us that might have had a different approach are somewhat embarrassed by our position. I'm not, I'm just massively disappointed.

For balance there a fair few posters who have been taking delight in telling the Lambert out's how wrong they are,and they tend to hunt in packs.

can you show me who has taken "delight" at telling the Lambert Out posters how wrong they are? Because with all due respect I think you are wrong. Nobody that I know stuck it in anyone's face when we had good results. Nobody said "I told you so". Rather, most took it as a positive step, but at no point was it considered that everything was rosy and fixed.

[LeeB]

I just don't get why the numbers at the top are so screwed to keeping him. Please, someone, tell me how he could be doing any worse than he is. How can anyone still want him here. U were all so quick to nail into big eck, be careful what you wish for...

Lee B was telling me on here only last week how all his friends are happy with Lambert so perhaps he could find out from them and let us know?

With respect Richard, that's about the third post on this thread so far where you seem to be revelling in fact you lost faith quicker than others.

I had you down as better than that.

I was thinking the same thing. Nobody should be happy that this is happening and everyone should have wanted him to succeed. You'd think that those of us that might have had a different approach are somewhat embarrassed by our position. I'm not, I'm just massively disappointed.

For balance there a fair few posters who have been taking delight in telling the Lambert out's how wrong they are,and they tend to hunt in packs.

Hunt in packs? Don't talk toss.

I think his time has come, and I'm pig sick about it, but not because I was fucking wrong.

It's because it means we're fucked.

[bertlambshank]

I just don't get why the numbers at the top are so screwed to keeping him. Please, someone, tell me how he could be doing any worse than he is. How can anyone still want him here. U were all so quick to nail into big eck, be careful what you wish for...

Lee B was telling me on here only last week how all his friends are happy with Lambert so perhaps he could find out from them and let us know?

With respect Richard, that's about the third post on this thread so far where you seem to be revelling in fact you lost faith quicker than others.

I had you down as better than that.

I was thinking the same thing. Nobody should be happy that this is happening and everyone should have wanted him to succeed. You'd think that those of us that might have had a different approach are somewhat embarrassed by our position. I'm not, I'm just massively disappointed.

For balance there a fair few posters who have been taking delight in telling the Lambert out's how wrong they are,and they tend to hunt in packs.

can you show me who has taken "delight" at telling the Lambert Out posters how wrong they are? Because with all due respect I think you are wrong. Nobody that I know stuck it in anyone's face when we had good results. Nobody said "I told you so". Rather, most took it as a positive step, but at no point was it considered that everything was rosy and fixed.

It's easy enough to find,just go to any Lambert thread.

[brian green]

His time has not come.   It will come around about Bonfire Night, whichever league we are in.

[Toronto Villa]

I just don't get why the numbers at the top are so screwed to keeping him. Please, someone, tell me how he could be doing any worse than he is. How can anyone still want him here. U were all so quick to nail into big eck, be careful what you wish for...

Lee B was telling me on here only last week how all his friends are happy with Lambert so perhaps he could find out from them and let us know?

With respect Richard, that's about the third post on this thread so far where you seem to be revelling in fact you lost faith quicker than others.

I had you down as better than that.

I was thinking the same thing. Nobody should be happy that this is happening and everyone should have wanted him to succeed. You'd think that those of us that might have had a different approach are somewhat embarrassed by our position. I'm not, I'm just massively disappointed.

For balance there a fair few posters who have been taking delight in telling the Lambert out's how wrong they are,and they tend to hunt in packs.

can you show me who has taken "delight" at telling the Lambert Out posters how wrong they are? Because with all due respect I think you are wrong. Nobody that I know stuck it in anyone's face when we had good results. Nobody said "I told you so". Rather, most took it as a positive step, but at no point was it considered that everything was rosy and fixed.

It's easy enough to find,just go to any Lambert thread.

If you are going use terms like taking delight then you better be able to prove it. It's made up nonsense otherwise.

[Louzie0]

Unless it's Lambert who gives them the collective dithers with his pre match and half time talks.
Which is also a possibility.

However, given the successes, this seems unlikely.

PF needs to bug BH with a psychoanalyst on call.