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Re: Tony Hateley
« Reply #105 on: February 10, 2014, 11:49:56 AM »
Someone who scored 68 goals for Villa in living memory should have been celebrated.

Liverpool managed to do so, and he played less than half the games for them as he did for us.

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Re: Tony Hateley
« Reply #106 on: February 10, 2014, 11:54:32 AM »
It does seem odd when we have silences for fans who have never been to a game that we don't have any sort of acknowledgment for a player that was very important to us as a team and important to the fans.

It should be the family's wishes that are respected though.

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Re: Tony Hateley
« Reply #107 on: February 10, 2014, 12:07:11 PM »
It does seem odd when we have silences for fans who have never been to a game that we don't have any sort of acknowledgment for a player that was very important to us as a team and important to the fans.

It should be the family's wishes that are respected though.

The club were put in an impossible position by that fan's family & friends and made the best of a bad job. I suppose the problem they face with a player such as Tony Hateley is that while those who were around while he was playing for us know about him, probably 90% of the crowd on Saturday will never have heard of him.

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Re: Tony Hateley
« Reply #108 on: February 10, 2014, 12:11:04 PM »
Great. At 72 you were too old to be remembered Tony. Hmmm.

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Re: Tony Hateley
« Reply #109 on: February 10, 2014, 12:22:37 PM »
That is the way it goes though surely? There must be a mountain of players from the 1910's and 1920's who Villa fans that started watching us in the 1960's are just unaware of, the same as those who started in the 1990's are going to be as au fait with the faces from the 1960's.


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Re: Tony Hateley
« Reply #110 on: February 10, 2014, 12:35:21 PM »
Liverpool and Notts County still remembered him.  Their age demographic is going to be no different than ours and with Liverpool there'll be more fans there who won't have a clue about what went on in the 70's let alone the 60's.

The 606 commentator for the Liverpool match V Arsenal mentioned the minutes applause they gave and pointed out to the listeners that he also played for Chelsea and Notts County.  No mention of us. 

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Re: Tony Hateley
« Reply #111 on: February 10, 2014, 12:47:17 PM »
Not surprised at all that the club never gave a minutes silence for Tony Hateley on Saturday, is typical of the way the club seems to be run these days. Well done to Liverpool and Notts County

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Re: Tony Hateley
« Reply #112 on: February 10, 2014, 12:59:36 PM »
If yer know yer history...

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Re: Tony Hateley
« Reply #113 on: February 10, 2014, 02:14:57 PM »
It does seem odd when we have silences for fans who have never been to a game that we don't have any sort of acknowledgment for a player that was very important to us as a team and important to the fans.

It should be the family's wishes that are respected though.

The club were put in an impossible position by that fan's family & friends and made the best of a bad job. I suppose the problem they face with a player such as Tony Hateley is that while those who were around while he was playing for us know about him, probably 90% of the crowd on Saturday will never have heard of him.

To a point that is correct Dave. Same will apply when Peter McParland passes on then. Sometime ago there was a poster on a thread who didnt know Andy Gray played for us. At each club there are many fans who know the history of the club they follow and many who do not.

Perhaps it doesnt matter but personally it matters to me.

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Re: Tony Hateley
« Reply #114 on: February 10, 2014, 02:16:23 PM »
It does seem odd when we have silences for fans who have never been to a game that we don't have any sort of acknowledgment for a player that was very important to us as a team and important to the fans.

It should be the family's wishes that are respected though.

The club were put in an impossible position by that fan's family & friends and made the best of a bad job. I suppose the problem they face with a player such as Tony Hateley is that while those who were around while he was playing for us know about him, probably 90% of the crowd on Saturday will never have heard of him.

To a point that is correct Dave. Same will apply when Peter McParland passes on then. Sometime ago there was a poster on a thread who didnt know Andy Gray played for us. At each club there are many fans who know the history of the club they follow and many who do not.

Perhaps it doesnt matter but personally it matters to me.

The point is where do you draw the line?

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Re: Tony Hateley
« Reply #115 on: February 10, 2014, 02:18:08 PM »
Someone who scored 68 goals for Villa in living memory should have been celebrated.

Liverpool managed to do so, and he played less than half the games for them as he did for us.

Prior to the minutes' applause, the BBC Radio commentator listed the clubs that Tony Hateley played for an didn't even mention Villa.

EDIT - As Bren'd already said

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Re: Tony Hateley
« Reply #116 on: February 10, 2014, 02:19:48 PM »
I think what the club do with one match a year being the day past players, staff and supporters are remembered is probably the best way of doing it.

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Re: Tony Hateley
« Reply #117 on: February 10, 2014, 02:29:59 PM »
It does seem odd when we have silences for fans who have never been to a game that we don't have any sort of acknowledgment for a player that was very important to us as a team and important to the fans.

It should be the family's wishes that are respected though.

The club were put in an impossible position by that fan's family & friends and made the best of a bad job. I suppose the problem they face with a player such as Tony Hateley is that while those who were around while he was playing for us know about him, probably 90% of the crowd on Saturday will never have heard of him.

To a point that is correct Dave. Same will apply when Peter McParland passes on then. Sometime ago there was a poster on a thread who didnt know Andy Gray played for us. At each club there are many fans who know the history of the club they follow and many who do not.

Perhaps it doesnt matter but personally it matters to me.

The point is where do you draw the line?
I understand that but I would think the club should honour major players for our club. Tony Hateley was a major player in the decade he played for Aston Villa. The first player to be transferred for exactly £100,000.

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Re: Tony Hateley
« Reply #118 on: February 10, 2014, 02:34:30 PM »
It does seem odd when we have silences for fans who have never been to a game that we don't have any sort of acknowledgment for a player that was very important to us as a team and important to the fans.

It should be the family's wishes that are respected though.

The club were put in an impossible position by that fan's family & friends and made the best of a bad job. I suppose the problem they face with a player such as Tony Hateley is that while those who were around while he was playing for us know about him, probably 90% of the crowd on Saturday will never have heard of him.

To a point that is correct Dave. Same will apply when Peter McParland passes on then. Sometime ago there was a poster on a thread who didnt know Andy Gray played for us. At each club there are many fans who know the history of the club they follow and many who do not.

Perhaps it doesnt matter but personally it matters to me.

The point is where do you draw the line?
I understand that but I would think the club should honour major players for our club. Tony Hateley was a major player in the decade he played for Aston Villa. The first player to be transferred for exactly £100,000.


Only because Jimmy Greaves came with a pound change. Seriously, though, I think what LV said is correct. Unless they made a major contribution  (trophy winning captain/goalscorer/manager or at least a decade's service), the end of the season is the right time to pay tribute.

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Re: Tony Hateley
« Reply #119 on: February 10, 2014, 02:56:08 PM »
I think what the club do with one match a year being the day past players, staff and supporters are remembered is probably the best way of doing it.

Probably so but then again they have made exceptions and given a minutes silence or applause on occasions - as Dave says where do you draw the line?

Having one game at the end of the season to remember those lost Is  fine as long as they stick to it .

 


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