Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[curiousorange]

I really don't know what's in the minds of the Villa hierarchy. To me, if you're looking for success on a shoestring, you need a canny manager with tactical acumen. Lambert is championed because he doesn't complain about the budget.

People may have enjoyed Wednesday's game. I enjoyed the result, but the match was painful. I think I've enjoyed listening to Villa once in the last four or so years, and that was the second half against Sunderland. I want to enjoy supporting the club again, and if the club is going to continue with this policy of spending pennies on players, the only way that will happen is a change of management.

[Irish villain]

Confirms me in my views that Martinez is the anti-Villa and Lambert is an enigma.

Martinez regularly turned us over when he was Wigan manager and helped create the Swansea that has,on the cheap, become a safe mid-table club that is easy on the eye. He also turned up his nose when he had the chance to manage us so that he could stay at Wigan. Also, when you need his team to beat somebody you can be sure they will lose and when you need them to get beaten they will go and beat United or Chelsea. Fuck I cannot stand him.

As for Lambert, why does he tinker with the system? We got into our stride the last few games then he changes it. Pressing =good resuts so why change to the horrific abomination of a 3-5-2?

And here's hoping Vlaar isn't out for long. Longer term we need to start looking for his replacement as we can't have such a stop start player as the main component of our spine.

Depressing.

[Fergal]

I`m seriously beginning to wonder whether in years to come, the Lerner/Lambert combination will be looked on as an absolute catastrophe for Aston Villa football club, screw the "we`re better off than last year" argument, fact is, we are a piss poor side in a poor league, we`re bringing in sub-standard signings, investing less and less on the pitch and it shows, it`s just a matter of time before this disasterous policy catches up with us. In terms of quality of performance, we are going backwards. If things don`t improve, the gates will plunge next season, less revenue = even less investment and then what??....

With the wage bill having been slashed and the TV income up I think we must be very profitable at the moment.  Is Randy trousering the profit or saving it for the summer?  Or making what he can before he sells?

[hartman_1982]

People taking issue with him changing a winning side, it isn't the 80's. Also, was that not exactly what MON got slagged for? He picked a formation to stifle the opposition and for 65 minutes he got it spot on. We used the ball poorly but to me we looked shattered, maybe Wednesday night took it out of us?

[Summers]

Second half was inexcusable. One goal up and we sit back and do nothing for 45 minutes.

[Legion]

Bacuna goal

[Fergal]

People taking issue with him changing a winning side, it isn't the 80's. Also, was that not exactly what MON got slagged for? He picked a formation to stifle the opposition and for 65 minutes he got it spot on. We used the ball poorly but to me we looked shattered, maybe Wednesday night took it out of us?

All the more reason to strengthen the squad what did we do? Fucking very little.

[Tuco Salamanca]

An embarrassment of the highest order.

That is anti football

Get that f in scottish tw@t out of my club

Were you saying that on Wednesday evening?

I was. Unlike some I wasn't letting one win paper over the cracks.

29% possession is embarrassing and I'm really fucking sick of it. He's turned us into a long ball team and probably the worst team to watch in the division. He really isn't the manager I thought we were getting. His tactics are from the stone age.

I've got to agree with this. He's done a decent job in terms of league position given the resources at his disposal but the football is utterly awful.

The fact that he spent £7m on a long ball target in the summer and neglected to add creative midfielder says it all to me.

[pauliewalnuts]

Week after week barely any attempt to play football. No midfield, as we don't need one, aimless long balls at  Benteke, occasionally combined with extreme defensiveness.

A decent result against Albion and a creditable draw at Anfield were nice but this season has been far more about the sort of shit we saw today.

We don't even try to play football.

If I weren't a Villa fan, we are exactly the sort of team I'd like to see get relegated. It us embarrassing, it was like that under McLeish and performances like today are no better.

Anyone who thinks this midfield, having opted not to strengthen, is going to mean anything other than this long ball shit till the end of the season is going to be disappointed.

I've now reached the point at which I can only think of one reason not to sack Lambert, and that is because it'd mean starting all over again, which manages to be more depressing a thought than seeing out the season playing like this.

I don't give a toss if we are five points and several places above the drop zone, if we carry on with this 30% possession shit we won't be there much longer. It is just embarrassing to watch, like Stoke except we're too brainless to do the gamesmanship stuff.

[hartman_1982]

Confirms me in my views that Martinez is the anti-Villa and Lambert is an enigma.

Martinez regularly turned us over when he was Wigan manager and helped create the Swansea that has,on the cheap, become a safe mid-table club that is easy on the eye. He also turned up his nose when he had the chance to manage us so that he could stay at Wigan. Also, when you need his team to beat somebody you can be sure they will lose and when you need them to get beaten they will go and beat United or Chelsea. Fuck I cannot stand him.

As for Lambert, why does he tinker with the system? We got into our stride the last few games then he changes it. Pressing =good resuts so why change to the horrific abomination of a 3-5-2?

And here's hoping Vlaar isn't out for long. Longer term we need to start looking for his replacement as we can't have such a stop start player as the main component of our spine.

Depressing.

Swansea that are in serious danger of going down? Wigan that went down?

[curiousorange]

In twenty years' time, we'll be talking about how shit it was to be Villa fans now.

[Rudy65]

I wonder what the players think of the tactics PL employs? We proved against Liverpool we can play, but 75% of the other games have been dire. The players cant enjoy playing like this and the better players like Benteke, Bertrand, Delph and Vlaar must be horrified to see what is going on.

Sooner or later our luck will run out and it could be this year. 10th place flatters us

[brontebilly]

It is a squad that would struggle in the championship and we expect Lambert to get it into the top half of the premiership.
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it is his squad, he bought the most of them. he is the one that decides to play with three centre halves against no centre forward

considering the utter dirge in the bottom half of the Barclays Premier League, a decent manager should be able to manage a side with the likes of benteke, gabby, guzan, vlaar, bertrand, delph into the top half. id prefer if we at least attempted to play football though.

its his managerial philosophy that is insulting to the game, mcleish is zdenek zeman like in comparison. I cant believe that the football we are playing and Lambert's reputation as a manager have not been talked about more in the mainsteam media. ive never seen anything like it since the backpass rule was abolished.

everton were shite today too with the exception of gareth barry who was a different level to the shite on both teams. from an irish perspective was very disappointed with our two glaswegians. both as is their wont flattered to deceive again. naismith coming on changed the game and thought pienaar was decent.

feel sorry for benteke to be playing with us. clark and baker both simply a disgrace today. some indictment of the standard of coaching in the Villa academy, the way those two treat the ball.

every non villa genuine football fan must be hoping we are relegated

[PaulWinch again]

Week after week barely any attempt to play football. No midfield, as we don't need one, aimless long balls at  Benteke, occasionally combined with extreme defensiveness.

A decent result against Albion and a creditable draw at Anfield were nice but this season has been far more about the sort of shit we saw today.

We don't even try to play football.

If I weren't a Villa fan, we are exactly the sort of team I'd like to see get relegated. It us embarrassing, it was like that under McLeish and performances like today are no better.

Anyone who thinks this midfield, having opted not to strengthen, is going to mean anything other than this long ball shit till the end of the season is going to be disappointed.

I've now reached the point at which I can only think of one reason not to sack Lambert, and that is because it'd mean starting all over again, which manages to be more depressing a thought than seeing out the season playing like this.

I don't give a toss if we are five points and several places above the drop zone, if we carry on with this 30% possession shit we won't be there much longer. It is just embarrassing to watch, like Stoke except we're too brainless to do the gamesmanship stuff.

I agree, it seems like the exciting game against Albion and the performance against Liverpool are almost in spite of our tactics. We are playing embarrassing and awful 'football' that is beneath a club of our size.

[Villafirst]

Reverted to type. Core problems are still there. Lerner should've spent in the Jan window. I've lost confidence in him running this club. You can't do it on the cheap in this league. Sell up!