Liverpool v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[eastie]

@GaryLineker: Much debate as to whether Suarez dived. Any striker knows in that position, if he can nudge it past on rushing keeper, he'll be fouled....

@GaryLineker: It's clearly making the most of a keeper's recklessness and completely different to diving with no contact. Playing for pen? Yes. Diving? No

@StanCollymore: Some pundits are hiding behind the fact they dived themselves so would look silly calling it out now.

"Diving is diving".

[Dave Clark Five]

Well said, Mark. Lambert needs to build on this. The job is nowhere near done yet.

[richard moore]

Come on lads, Guzan should have been more cautious considering Suarez' reputation. I don't think we were robbed exactly. A draw was a fair result.

UTV.

He dived, he cheated, that's not Guzans fault...

Guzan gave him the opportunity to go down. You're not seeing the same thing I'm seeing, you can whinge all you like about decisions, I'd rather accept the reality that players go down in the box looking for penalties/forcing contact and hope that our defenders and keepers don't lunge in like Guzan did today unless they get the ball. Guzan didn't touch the ball. Asking for trouble.

That is what I would tell my players as a manager, not 'it doesn't matter, he dived, we were robbed' etc. Don't give players like that the opportunities to con the ref.

Sigh. The modern day football fan encapsulated in one post

[Legion]

@GaryLineker: Much debate as to whether Suarez dived. Any striker knows in that position, if he can nudge it past on rushing keeper, he'll be fouled....

@GaryLineker: It's clearly making the most of a keeper's recklessness and completely different to diving with no contact. Playing for pen? Yes. Diving? No

@StanCollymore: Some pundits are hiding behind the fact they dived themselves so would look silly calling it out now.

"Diving is diving".

@GaryLineker You're talking out of your arse.

@StanCollymore Get in there!

Is this how Twatter works?

[lovejoy]

Look at the expression on his face at the point of simulated contact, it's as if he's been shot.

[ktvillan]

Come on lads, Guzan should have been more cautious considering Suarez' reputation. I don't think we were robbed exactly. A draw was a fair result.

UTV.

He dived, he cheated, that's not Guzans fault...

Guzan gave him the opportunity to go down. You're not seeing the same thing I'm seeing, you can whinge all you like about decisions, I'd rather accept the reality that players go down in the box looking for penalties/forcing contact and hope that our defenders and keepers don't lunge in like Guzan did today unless they get the ball. Guzan didn't touch the ball. Asking for trouble.

So "giving someone the opportunity to go down"  means it's a foul? Players going down in the box all the time means it's a foul? "Forcing contact" means it's a foul?  Are you on some kind of medication?  It's the ref's job to spot when all those things are goign on, or when there is a genuine foul, and to know the bloody difference. And these days they are paid rather handsomely to do so.   He failed miserably, the  replays show that to be the case. Simple.

[Smirker]

Come on lads, Guzan should have been more cautious considering Suarez' reputation. I don't think we were robbed exactly. A draw was a fair result.

UTV.

He dived, he cheated, that's not Guzans fault...

Guzan gave him the opportunity to go down. You're not seeing the same thing I'm seeing, you can whinge all you like about decisions, I'd rather accept the reality that players go down in the box looking for penalties/forcing contact and hope that our defenders and keepers don't lunge in like Guzan did today unless they get the ball. Guzan didn't touch the ball. Asking for trouble.

That is what I would tell my players as a manager, not 'it doesn't matter, he dived, we were robbed' etc. Don't give players like that the opportunities to con the ref.

Sigh. The modern day football fan encapsulated in one post

You've not countered anything. I understand why the penalty was given, watch it again and Guzan pulls his arms in as he's level with Suarez to presumably avoid touching his legs and bringing him down, instead of extending them and palming the ball away. Also as someone else said, the ref makes the call in a split second, it looked a penalty in real time (looks close to one in slow mo from about 5 different angles too).

You're welcome to your victim complex, just pointing out it's completely biased and unrealistic.

[SashasGrandad]

What will Lineker say in the summer when Suarez dives for Uruguay against England?

Can see it now Gerrard makes the challenge and he goes down.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Well, where the fuck did that come from???

Excellent first half, regressed slightly in the second, but kept going and had our moments.

The difference in confidence between playing at home and away is ridiculous. Today, players passed the ball, moved to a position to have the ball back an then receive the ball without panicking.

Can we move on from this? Let's hope so.

Thought Bertrand fitted in well and I felt much more at ease with him playing.

Vlarr was great. We look so much better when he plays.

Gabby going off was a big blow.

Everyone contributed and played well.

[ktvillan]

@GaryLineker: Much debate as to whether Suarez dived. Any striker knows in that position, if he can nudge it past on rushing keeper, he'll be fouled....

@GaryLineker: It's clearly making the most of a keeper's recklessness and completely different to diving with no contact. Playing for pen? Yes. Diving? No

@StanCollymore: Some pundits are hiding behind the fact they dived themselves so would look silly calling it out now.

"Diving is diving".

@GaryLineker You're talking out of your arse.

@StanCollymore Get in there!

Is this how Twatter works?

Nice one Stanloi

[Legion]

Come on lads, Guzan should have been more cautious considering Suarez' reputation. I don't think we were robbed exactly. A draw was a fair result.

UTV.

He dived, he cheated, that's not Guzans fault...

Guzan gave him the opportunity to go down. You're not seeing the same thing I'm seeing, you can whinge all you like about decisions, I'd rather accept the reality that players go down in the box looking for penalties/forcing contact and hope that our defenders and keepers don't lunge in like Guzan did today unless they get the ball. Guzan didn't touch the ball. Asking for trouble.

That is what I would tell my players as a manager, not 'it doesn't matter, he dived, we were robbed' etc. Don't give players like that the opportunities to con the ref.

Sigh. The modern day football fan encapsulated in one post

If one of my kids did what Suarez did today, I'd take him off and tell the designated penalty-taker to miss. Yes, I know there's a massive difference between Primary School football and the Premier League.

[hilts_coolerking]

@GaryLineker: Much debate as to whether Suarez dived. Any striker knows in that position, if he can nudge it past on rushing keeper, he'll be fouled....

@GaryLineker: It's clearly making the most of a keeper's recklessness and completely different to diving with no contact. Playing for pen? Yes. Diving? No

@StanCollymore: Some pundits are hiding behind the fact they dived themselves so would look silly calling it out now.

"Diving is diving".

@GaryLineker You're talking out of your arse.

@StanCollymore Get in there!

Is this how Twatter works?

That's pretty much how the internet works.

[aj2k77]

Best performance since the opening week. The beast is back. Left back is sorted till summer. Get some midfield help in now and continue to play football. It was an enjoyable watch today.

[richard moore]

Come on lads, Guzan should have been more cautious considering Suarez' reputation. I don't think we were robbed exactly. A draw was a fair result.

UTV.

He dived, he cheated, that's not Guzans fault...

Guzan gave him the opportunity to go down. You're not seeing the same thing I'm seeing, you can whinge all you like about decisions, I'd rather accept the reality that players go down in the box looking for penalties/forcing contact and hope that our defenders and keepers don't lunge in like Guzan did today unless they get the ball. Guzan didn't touch the ball. Asking for trouble.

That is what I would tell my players as a manager, not 'it doesn't matter, he dived, we were robbed' etc. Don't give players like that the opportunities to con the ref.

Sigh. The modern day football fan encapsulated in one post

You've not countered anything. I understand why the penalty was given, watch it again and Guzan pulls his arms in as he's level with Suarez to presumably avoid touching his legs and bringing him down, instead of extending them and palming the ball away. Also as someone else said, the ref makes the call in a split second, it looked a penalty in real time (looks close to one in slow mo from about 5 different angles too).

You're welcome to your victim complex, just pointing out it's completely biased and unrealistic.

Thank you sunshine...as I said, the modern day football fan encapsulated in two posts now

[mattjpa]

Good performance , losing Gabby was a big factor .KEA just doesn't do it for me, shouldn't be in the starting 11.

On a normal day id probably agree but it's comments like this that remind me how subjective peoples opinions on football are. Kea won us a point today with an absolutely outstanding 40mins. He ran the game and was absolutely everywhere