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Author Topic: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread  (Read 97225 times)

Offline ROBBO

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Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
« Reply #465 on: December 29, 2013, 11:31:54 AM »
When your goalkeeper gets your top posessions says it all really.

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Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
« Reply #466 on: December 29, 2013, 11:36:29 AM »
I would like to see him solve the midfield coaching issue in the way he has addressed the defending from set pieces. If that means getting rid of Culverhouse, then so be it.

Whatever other problems we have, I didn't have my heart in my mouth every time we conceded a corner yesterday.

But its very difficult to get rid of someone you have worked with for sometime, someone who may be a personal friend. Even if he has shown to be not up to the job. Still as you say the defence has improved recently at corners.

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Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
« Reply #467 on: December 29, 2013, 11:39:51 AM »
Is it the same coaching staff as last year or was a defensive coach brought in?

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Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
« Reply #468 on: December 29, 2013, 11:40:48 AM »
I am somewhat surprised to see that no one as realised why Gabby and the other players came over to the dugout to celebrate the goal with the other squad members.
They completely ignored the Holte and the supporters as they are fed up of being booed[Rightly or wrongle after every match] by them and by that action we can assume that a rift between supporters and players now exists and when that happens there is only one outcome.
This is the beginning of the end.  :(

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Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
« Reply #469 on: December 29, 2013, 11:42:21 AM »
I am somewhat surprised to see that no one as realised why Gabby and the other players came over to the dugout to celebrate the goal with the other squad members.
They completely ignored the Holte and the supporters as they are fed up of being booed[Rightly or wrongle after every match] by them and by that action we can assume that a rift between supporters and players now exists and when that happens there is only one outcome.
This is the beginning of the end.  :(

Or one of the subs had a tenner on Gabby as first goalscorer.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2013, 11:46:15 AM by PeterWithe »

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Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
« Reply #470 on: December 29, 2013, 11:43:38 AM »
Yesterday was a 90 min attack vs defence exercise.Our players spent the best part of 90 mins chasing the ball around.We got a draw out of it as Swansea are a bit toothless with no Michu but against City or Liverpool we are going to be embarrassed.With the ball you can dictate play let the ball do the work where as our players are running round chasing for 90 mins they are wearing themselves out.


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Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
« Reply #471 on: December 29, 2013, 11:44:18 AM »
Omg possession, 27% still can't get over, remember when Lambert took over saying I want to play the right way, good passing football, then 1st game against West Ham we all chanted over and over "were passing the ball" how times have changed.

Lambert has tried, he's been stubborn and bought in "his" signings, now is the time we get some experience, never thought I'd say it but if we had a Barry or a Huddleston, someone to take the young lads, help them in a match tell them where to play. We have still not replaced Petrov.

Things can turn quickly in football and hoping 1 or 2 experienced players could do that.

It's an unbelievable stat. 27% possession is unacceptable! and I don't care how much Lambert plays it down, it won't wash with me. It proves these players are out of their depth. If we don't significantly strengthen in January it'll be touch and go if we stay in this league.

Get over it. Swansea have greater possession than every club they play against yet have only one point more than us.

Everyone gets that the more possession you have the more time you have to score and the less time the opposition have to score but we could've told you yesterday that Swansea would have significantly more possession, just like they will in every game to the end of the season. Bleating about that stat in isolation after the game is absolutely pointless and meaningless.

Lots of other criticisms of yesterday are fine (except the apparent lack of closing down - I thought we closed down better than we have done for weeks) but focussing on a stat which is meaningless when you play Swansea just smacks of desperate, over the top negativity.

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Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
« Reply #472 on: December 29, 2013, 11:47:32 AM »
Omg possession, 27% still can't get over, remember when Lambert took over saying I want to play the right way, good passing football, then 1st game against West Ham we all chanted over and over "were passing the ball" how times have changed.

Lambert has tried, he's been stubborn and bought in "his" signings, now is the time we get some experience, never thought I'd say it but if we had a Barry or a Huddleston, someone to take the young lads, help them in a match tell them where to play. We have still not replaced Petrov.

Things can turn quickly in football and hoping 1 or 2 experienced players could do that.

It's an unbelievable stat. 27% possession is unacceptable! and I don't care how much Lambert plays it down, it won't wash with me. It proves these players are out of their depth. If we don't significantly strengthen in January it'll be touch and go if we stay in this league.

Get over it. Swansea have greater possession than every club they play against yet have only one point more than us.

Everyone gets that the more possession you have the more time you have to score and the less time the opposition have to score but we could've told you yesterday that Swansea would have significantly more possession, just like they will in every game to the end of the season. Bleating about that stat in isolation after the game is absolutely pointless and meaningless.

Lots of other criticisms of yesterday are fine (except the apparent lack of closing down - I thought we closed down better than we have done for weeks) but focussing on a stat which is meaningless when you play Swansea just smacks of desperate, over the top negativity.

We get just 27% possession at home to the mighty Swansea and you think criticism so it is "over the top"? Ha!

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Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
« Reply #473 on: December 29, 2013, 11:54:06 AM »
Omg possession, 27% still can't get over, remember when Lambert took over saying I want to play the right way, good passing football, then 1st game against West Ham we all chanted over and over "were passing the ball" how times have changed.

Lambert has tried, he's been stubborn and bought in "his" signings, now is the time we get some experience, never thought I'd say it but if we had a Barry or a Huddleston, someone to take the young lads, help them in a match tell them where to play. We have still not replaced Petrov.

Things can turn quickly in football and hoping 1 or 2 experienced players could do that.

It's an unbelievable stat. 27% possession is unacceptable! and I don't care how much Lambert plays it down, it won't wash with me. It proves these players are out of their depth. If we don't significantly strengthen in January it'll be touch and go if we stay in this league.

Get over it. Swansea have greater possession than every club they play against yet have only one point more than us.

Everyone gets that the more possession you have the more time you have to score and the less time the opposition have to score but we could've told you yesterday that Swansea would have significantly more possession, just like they will in every game to the end of the season. Bleating about that stat in isolation after the game is absolutely pointless and meaningless.

Lots of other criticisms of yesterday are fine (except the apparent lack of closing down - I thought we closed down better than we have done for weeks) but focussing on a stat which is meaningless when you play Swansea just smacks of desperate, over the top negativity.

We get just 27% possession at home to the mighty Swansea and you think criticism so it is "over the top"? Ha!

What exactly did they do with all that possession? They had as many shots on target as we did. When the Premier League change the rules so you get league points for possession I'll get as upset as you do about it.

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Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
« Reply #474 on: December 29, 2013, 11:56:32 AM »
A positive for me is that we started well with pace and did what we used to do and closed/pressed the opposition. For whatever reason we stopped doing that after the goal and went into our shells which is due IMO to confidence. The team we started with would cause Sunderland problems I believe providing Vlaar is fit enough to replace the suspended Clark.

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Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
« Reply #475 on: December 29, 2013, 11:58:31 AM »
Just seen Swansea's goal again and our two fullbacks were appalling. Lowton out of position yet again and Luna shoved off the ball like a little kid. He really is a poor player. No wonder he spent the previous two seasons out on loan.

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Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
« Reply #476 on: December 29, 2013, 11:59:29 AM »
He has been hampered by injuries to key players. Vlaar, Okore and Benteke.
Not sure if this is your comment or Lamberts, Legion.
What I would say is that although we all hope and pray that Okore is every bit as good as we believe he is, there is no way he can be considered a key player for us given he played no more than a couple of games before his injury.
He didn't even start the first 2 games of the season!
I can't stand hiding behind the injuries excuse.....mind you, the total lack of movement amongst the 10 outfield players weekly, leads me to think most are carrying broken legs anyway.

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Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
« Reply #477 on: December 29, 2013, 12:01:00 PM »
I am somewhat surprised to see that no one as realised why Gabby and the other players came over to the dugout to celebrate the goal with the other squad members.
They completely ignored the Holte and the supporters as they are fed up of being booed[Rightly or wrongle after every match] by them and by that action we can assume that a rift between supporters and players now exists and when that happens there is only one outcome.
This is the beginning of the end.  :(

I can only presume that was meant as a joke.

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Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
« Reply #478 on: December 29, 2013, 12:01:56 PM »
27% possession at home against anyone is completely unacceptable. Anyone saying that the fact they didn't produce much is missing the point. At home you need to be able to stamp your authority on the game and if you don't you'll lose most games. Our possession stats at home are a massive reason as to why we've for terrible results.

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Re: Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread
« Reply #479 on: December 29, 2013, 12:02:55 PM »
I can understand those disregarding the possession stats if we carved out chance after chance using the long ball and wing play. We didn't though, we seemed to have the worst of both worlds, a smallish team lacking the physicality to play long ball effectively yet also without the movement required to play a possession game.

 


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