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Author Topic: and then who?  (Read 72460 times)

Offline ACVilla

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #375 on: December 28, 2013, 01:00:15 AM »
Laudrup.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #376 on: December 28, 2013, 03:20:09 AM »
I don't watch Norwegian football but I would give OGS a go rather than Lambert because the football under  Lambert is quite frankly awful - I've watched villa for 35 years and many of those as a season ticket holder and this is truly abysmal
So on what basis are you saying you'd have Solskjær if you know nothing about him? Why not Ronny Delia who outperformed Solskjær last season?

Plus, considering you were a big advocate of Lambert becoming our manager in 2012 do you really think you should trust your own judgement now? You picked badly last time, what's to say you'll do a better job this time?

Incidentally, I know nothing about either of the above two as managers either and I wanted Lambert as manager in 2012 too. But I'm not the one insisting that this bloke I don't know much about or the other bloke that I don't know much are the logical choice.

On the basis of this, I claim SOLE RIGHTS over talking about a potential new manager as I AND I (nearly) ALONE was pretty much set against Lambert becoming manager. Bizarrely enough, everyone else has been disappointed by him and I might be the only one who's opinion of him really has improved - I think he wants us to play better football than I thought he would, and he has impressed me with his seriousness and general calmness in a crisis. However, I never did want him in the first place, but I don't like being proved right and I really hope I eventually get proved wronger than Nostradamus. Sincerely.

I have supported him from day 1, but if you read my posts at the time had serious reservations about him.

I'm the same as Ozz. My post on his signing thread wasn't the most complimentary! But i've supported him ever since and until recently have been happy to have him as manager. So i'lll be right and wrong regardless of whether he succeeds or fails. Which is confusing me. My head hurts now.

Offline eastie

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #377 on: December 28, 2013, 08:26:51 AM »
Looks like Bielsa is on the radar elsewhere-

@JamesNursey: The Cardiff chairman Dalman does want Solskjær but I've personally heard Tan fancies Marcelo Bielsa, who's recommended by Medel

@JamesNursey: Marcelo Bielsa was Chile boss and helped Medel a lot apparently and he's pushing him for #CCFC job with Tan
« Last Edit: December 28, 2013, 08:28:32 AM by eastie »

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #378 on: December 28, 2013, 08:39:07 AM »
I don't watch Norwegian football but I would give OGS a go rather than Lambert because the football under  Lambert is quite frankly awful - I've watched villa for 35 years and many of those as a season ticket holder and this is truly abysmal
So on what basis are you saying you'd have Solskjær if you know nothing about him? Why not Ronny Delia who outperformed Solskjær last season?

Plus, considering you were a big advocate of Lambert becoming our manager in 2012 do you really think you should trust your own judgement now? You picked badly last time, what's to say you'll do a better job this time?

Incidentally, I know nothing about either of the above two as managers either and I wanted Lambert as manager in 2012 too. But I'm not the one insisting that this bloke I don't know much about or the other bloke that I don't know much are the logical choice.

On the basis of this, I claim SOLE RIGHTS over talking about a potential new manager as I AND I (nearly) ALONE was pretty much set against Lambert becoming manager. Bizarrely enough, everyone else has been disappointed by him and I might be the only one who's opinion of him really has improved - I think he wants us to play better football than I thought he would, and he has impressed me with his seriousness and general calmness in a crisis. However, I never did want him in the first place, but I don't like being proved right and I really hope I eventually get proved wronger than Nostradamus. Sincerely.

I have supported him from day 1, but if you read my posts at the time had serious reservations about him.

I'm the same as Ozz. My post on his signing thread wasn't the most complimentary! But i've supported him ever since and until recently have been happy to have him as manager. So i'lll be right and wrong regardless of whether he succeeds or fails. Which is confusing me. My head hurts now.


A bit deflating all this isn't it!

Cardiff appointing a good manager and giving him lots of money will add to the depression of it all. I am still hoping they do something stupid like appoint Bellamy.

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #379 on: December 28, 2013, 08:52:21 AM »
he says 'To do that you need to keep building it and adding quality to it and adding at every turn '


well I havent seen much of this quality up to now

and the fans are turning in their droves!

Offline Kevin_Brum12

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #380 on: December 28, 2013, 11:36:02 AM »
Whilst people are expecting that Lambert will stay in post, my gut feeling is that if he loses today and there is a reaction like we saw at Villa Park on Thursday Lambert will resign.  My impression from his post match interviews to the media is that he has lost all confidence and knows he has been found out, and is out of his depth like a goldfish in a sea of piranhas. When he speaks there is no swagger like a Ferguson or Mourinho, no analysis like a Wenger, no nous like a Rogers or Moyes and no amusement like a Redknapp.   Clearly Lambert is flailing under the pressure and he knows it.

Faulkner and Lerner would, in an ideal world, want to wait until the end of the season before changing personnel.   However this is not the ideal world and you have to speculate to accumulate.   If there is a possibility we are going to be relegated and Lambert would put our Premier League status in jeopardy they cannot wait until May, nor pussyfoot and give Lambert any time in January.  If the likes of OGS are available are they more likely to come to a Premier League club, or one that has been relegated to the Championship after an indifferent season?

I think Paul Lambert is an honorable man.   Should Villa be beaten today, at 5.05 p.m. he should tender his resignation to Paul Faulkner in order to give the club the opportunity to find a new man to take us forward.  It is better, in a situation like this, to jump (and put the CEO in the spotlight) rather than be pushed.

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #381 on: December 28, 2013, 11:38:04 AM »
I have vague memories of hearing he did this at a similar time last year and the offer was refused.

Offline john e

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #382 on: December 28, 2013, 11:39:25 AM »
He won't resign,
 to much money to lose

Offline eastie

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #383 on: December 28, 2013, 11:42:23 AM »
He won't resign,
 to much money to lose

No chance of him resigning.

Offline Kevin_Brum12

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #384 on: December 28, 2013, 11:56:04 AM »
He won't resign,
 to much money to lose

No chance of him resigning.

However, having the relegation of Aston Villa FC and the inevitable dismissal in May should that happen will not look good on Lamberts C.V.  And if he has tried to jump before, I suspect that if the wretched form carries on he knows what is coming in the Spring.

Of course Doug would have took him around the rose garden a long time ago...

Offline MalcolmP

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #385 on: December 28, 2013, 12:00:32 PM »
Martinez

Offline eastie

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #386 on: December 28, 2013, 12:00:46 PM »
He won't resign,
 to much money to lose

No chance of him resigning.

However, having the relegation of Aston Villa FC and the inevitable dismissal in May should that happen will not look good on Lamberts C.V.  And if he has tried to jump before, I suspect that if the wretched form carries on he knows what is coming in the Spring.

Of course Doug would have took him around the rose garden a long time ago...

Far better to get the sack and a big pay off than be labelled a quitter and get nowt though sadly these days.

Offline Leighton

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #387 on: December 28, 2013, 12:01:29 PM »
This is another reason why I miss terracing. Because I have a season ticket I feel that I have to go today, even though I'd rather not bother and do something like enjoy my day. If it were still the old terracing where you could turn up on the day and still stand next to your mates, then it wouldn't be a problem. The only reason I have a season ticket is to guarantee I can sit next to my mates, let's face it- we don't get many sell-outs where we'd struggle for a ticket.

The long and short is this, today is going to be like a chore. And if Lambert stays, most of the following home games will feel the same.

Offline brian green

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #388 on: December 28, 2013, 12:01:55 PM »
Not a chance in hell of him resigning.   He is not the resigning type.   He is a dice roller, a Micawber who believes something will always turn up.   I have supported him since day one but I have never believed that he has any kind of plan.   He is like the roulette player who spreads his chips all across the table and hopes that the winning bets will cover the losing ones.   He is a chancer and the job has found him out.

Having said that I don't care if he goes of if he stays.   Our immediate future remains exactly the same with whichever manager is in charge because it is not the manager who can change what is wrong with the club.

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #389 on: December 28, 2013, 12:05:29 PM »
He won't resign,
 to much money to lose

No chance of him resigning.

However, having the relegation of Aston Villa FC and the inevitable dismissal in May should that happen will not look good on Lamberts C.V.  And if he has tried to jump before, I suspect that if the wretched form carries on he knows what is coming in the Spring.

Of course Doug would have took him around the rose garden a long time ago...

Far better to get the sack and a big pay off than be labelled a quitter and get nowt though sadly these days.

He should offer his resignation as his record is appalling.

 


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