Aston Villa v Crystal Palace Post-Match Thread

[PeterWithesShin]

Calling a fan a "fucking moron" for being pissed off with yesterday, and indeed our home form overall this year, isn't acceptable.

I suppose said supporter was politely requesting a change in tactics etc.....
If you dish it out you've got to be able to take it back.

If you serve up shit time and time again you've got to be able to take it when someone tells you. Not insult the person who is paying for your shit.

[Monty]

Calling a fan a "fucking moron" for being pissed off with yesterday, and indeed our home form overall this year, isn't acceptable.

I suppose said supporter was politely requesting a change in tactics etc.....
If you dish it out you've got to be able to take it back.

If you serve up shit time and time again you've got to be able to take it when someone tells you. Not insult the person who is paying for your shit.

It looks bad, but there might be more to it than we see at the moment. Like with Wilshere's gesture - if they were having a go at his kids he can say whatever he likes back as far as I'm concerned.

[PeterWithesShin]

Calling a fan a "fucking moron" for being pissed off with yesterday, and indeed our home form overall this year, isn't acceptable.

I suppose said supporter was politely requesting a change in tactics etc.....
If you dish it out you've got to be able to take it back.

If you serve up shit time and time again you've got to be able to take it when someone tells you. Not insult the person who is paying for your shit.

It looks bad, but there might be more to it than we see at the moment. Like with Wilshere's gesture - if they were having a go at his kids he can say whatever he likes back as far as I'm concerned.

I fully agree. But there has not been even the slightest indication that the fan said anything unacceptable.

[Monty]

Calling a fan a "fucking moron" for being pissed off with yesterday, and indeed our home form overall this year, isn't acceptable.

I suppose said supporter was politely requesting a change in tactics etc.....
If you dish it out you've got to be able to take it back.

If you serve up shit time and time again you've got to be able to take it when someone tells you. Not insult the person who is paying for your shit.

It looks bad, but there might be more to it than we see at the moment. Like with Wilshere's gesture - if they were having a go at his kids he can say whatever he likes back as far as I'm concerned.

I fully agree. But there has not been even the slightest indication that the fan said anything unacceptable.

I don't know, there's no indication of what the fan said at all, and it's entirely within the realms of possibility that they overstepped the mark.

[PeterWithesShin]

What i've read is the fan said something along the lines of "Fucking sort it out" now he may well have sworn a bit more, but I can't see how that can include anything of a personal nature regarding his family etc.

Of course I also accept that what i've read is incorrect as I was Lower North so nowhere near the incident. I just think that on a forum somewhere someone would have mentioned by now if the fan had been out of order with what they said.

[London Villan]

I didn't hear anything of a personal nature, all football related. They got a lot more at the final whistle, but they were hiding in the dugout at that point, so either didn't hear it or managed to ignore that time around.

[Monty]

I didn't hear anything of a personal nature, all football related. They got a lot more at the final whistle, but they were hiding in the dugout at that point, so either didn't hear it or managed to ignore that time around.

Well fair enough, but until some really concrete facts are established I'd rather reserve judgement. However, I admit, it really doesn't look good.

[taylorsworkrate]

I remember a game against Ipswich, 00/01 when we got tickets by the dug out. We losing and someone shouted out "gotta get some fight into them John (Gregory)" His response?

"Fucking right and all"

I had a lot of respect for him that day, and we even went on to win the game 2-1

[brian green]

The difference being that JG is Villa through and through and understands what the fans are going through,   As for Culverhouse or Lambert for that matter they are just hired hands who should not bite the had that feeds them

[pelty]

"Let's stop being so nice to Brad Guzan.  His individual performances are good insofar as he is a shot stopper of quality but he must stop slowing down the play and hoofing the ball down the middle of the park.   Roll it out.   Throw it out.   When a keeper has centre backs as young and as lacking in composure and confidence as Clark and Baker he knows they will take the soft option time and time again.   The soft, easy option is the ball back to the keeper.   WHAT THE KEEPER MUST NOT DO is hoof it way over the half way line where it becomes at the very best 50-50 ball and we come under pressure again.   The ball back to the keeper is a legitimate pass only if the keeper makes a pass with it."

I HAVE to believe that he is coached to do this? Surely, he can see the futility of it, so why would it continue? Even if it *is* on Guzan, the manager needs to see the futility of it and tell Guzan to stop doing it. It goes back to the manager, in my opinion.

[silhillvilla]

Why are people leaping to Culverhouse's defence ? I've not seen an apology from the useless chav yet !!

[London Villan]

Trouble is none of the back four that played yesterday can pass to Villa players... the amount of time they give the ball away while under no pressure is terrible for premiership footballers...

[taylorsworkrate]

Why are people leaping to Culverhouse's defence ? I've not seen an apology from the useless chav yet !!

It doesn't look as if the incident is going to get big enough coverage outside of a couple of forums or twitter, for it to either be completely substantiated, or for Culverhouse to having to do anything about.

[olaftab]

cant wait for Suarez against Baker

Gerrard , Henderson and Coutinho against KEA and Westwood ;(

Surely you are not looking forward to that gleefully?
Anyway Baker knows how to stop him except it results in Gerrard scoring from a penalty!

[eastie]

Interesting view pelty , I can only presume he doesn't maybe have enough confidence in the defence to expect them to pass without losing possession?