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Offline Irish villain

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #945 on: January 04, 2014, 11:02:56 PM »
The one thing that is certain is that the owner does not have a clue how to run a football club and until Randy sells to someone who does or employs someone who does we will continue on a downward spiral until we are relegated.
I really believed we had the best owner in the world and I believed in the bright future that was promised.  Sadly Randy has let us all down, as soon as things got tough he fucked off just like the General did.
As a club we are on freefall lurching from one failing managerial appointment to another leading to dodging relegation season after season.  Serving up shit football and giving us some of the most embarassing results in the clubs history, 2 shots on goal against a club near the bottom of the old 3rd division was todays effort.
Something needs to change and soon or the damage will take decades to fix.

Excellent post Fergal. I remember the wave of optimism around Randy's takeover and your posts from that time,in particular, have always stuck with me. We all believed we had struck gold with Randy and that something which had been holding the club back had been replaced with something that would give it the space and resources to finally fulfill its potential. Randy was going to take us into the twenty-first century and we would be competing with the best.

It simply hasn't worked out that way and I think we are an awful lot closer to relegation now than we were in 2005/06, and have been the past couple of seasons. Also, Fergal's point about Randy buggering off stands up because Randy was always there, visible when things were going well. He has been less and less visible as this has got worse and worse.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2014, 11:04:38 PM by Irish villain »

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #946 on: January 04, 2014, 11:03:58 PM »
Having a lightweight inept midfield doesn't help, they can't create fuck all

When you say 'lightweight' do you mean 'physically weak' or just 'rubbish'? Because if it's the former I have to disagree, as throwing in Mr. Muscle Yacouba Sylla to clean up the mess (geddit!!??!??!) hasn't produced any better results.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #947 on: January 04, 2014, 11:04:38 PM »
I think the problem is not that Lerner's hiding, it's that he's bored. We're an asset he has tired of but we belong to him and don't cost him enough money to get shut of these days.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #948 on: January 04, 2014, 11:08:50 PM »
Having a lightweight inept midfield doesn't help, they can't create fuck all

When you say 'lightweight' do you mean 'physically weak' or just 'rubbish'? Because if it's the former I have to disagree, as throwing in Mr. Muscle Yacouba Sylla to clean up the mess (geddit!!??!??!) hasn't produced any better results.

I think Sylla has been woefully positioned though. He has not played in front of the back 4 when picked, he has played wider or more advanced, making little sense. He should be with Westwood, allowing Delph to go and play. Not creating a situation where Delph is the last man in the 90th minute against Palace with their striker walzing past him.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #949 on: January 04, 2014, 11:11:13 PM »
I wonder how that tattoo looks on his leg now? 

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #950 on: January 04, 2014, 11:13:09 PM »
I wonder how that tattoo looks on his leg now? 
It was probably only crayon anyway... :)

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #951 on: January 04, 2014, 11:13:35 PM »
Having a lightweight inept midfield doesn't help, they can't create fuck all

When you say 'lightweight' do you mean 'physically weak' or just 'rubbish'? Because if it's the former I have to disagree, as throwing in Mr. Muscle Yacouba Sylla to clean up the mess (geddit!!??!??!) hasn't produced any better results.

I think they are physically weak, When Sylla has played he's been out of position, He's played right wing as well which is not his position, he needs to be in front of the back 4! Delph is decent but he's weak he can't even tackle he just lunges. KEA is nowhere as imposing on the game as he could be.  A lot of games are lost as we just get overpowered in the middle
« Last Edit: January 04, 2014, 11:15:14 PM by Phil from the upper holte »

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #952 on: January 04, 2014, 11:14:18 PM »
Watch this and your pain will grow even more.

Notice the similarities between this video and what Lambert is saying.
Load of old shite.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #953 on: January 04, 2014, 11:16:29 PM »
Having a lightweight inept midfield doesn't help, they can't create fuck all

When you say 'lightweight' do you mean 'physically weak' or just 'rubbish'? Because if it's the former I have to disagree, as throwing in Mr. Muscle Yacouba Sylla to clean up the mess (geddit!!??!??!) hasn't produced any better results.

I think Sylla has been woefully positioned though. He has not played in front of the back 4 when picked, he has played wider or more advanced, making little sense. He should be with Westwood, allowing Delph to go and play. Not creating a situation where Delph is the last man in the 90th minute against Palace with their striker walzing past him.
I don't think it matters what formation or what players he uses we will be crap.  The players are just not good enough.  What is our goal to game ratio over the season? TSM got slaughtered for that alone...

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #954 on: January 04, 2014, 11:16:45 PM »
See I disagree because if they could actually pass the ball and move off it they wouldn't need to look 'ard and big. Ozzjim and I have had this debate plenty enough, but I think we agree that the passing has to come first and it's very hard to find midfielders who are both strong and technical for less than £30m these days.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #955 on: January 04, 2014, 11:17:06 PM »
Pftuh you are absolutely correct in one short sentence.   We get overpowered in the middle, week after week, game after game.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #956 on: January 04, 2014, 11:23:44 PM »
See I disagree because if they could actually pass the ball and move off it they wouldn't need to look 'ard and big. Ozzjim and I have had this debate plenty enough, but I think we agree that the passing has to come first and it's very hard to find midfielders who are both strong and technical for less than £30m these days.

You might need £30m midfielders to compete at the top of the league.  You certainly don't need that level of player to break open a relegation threatened league 1 outfit.  I've said it before, this lot players/coaching/management would struggle in the championship.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #957 on: January 04, 2014, 11:25:01 PM »
Excellent post Fergal

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #958 on: January 04, 2014, 11:27:11 PM »
The problem isn't that the midfielders are too small or physically lightweight.

It is that they're not good enough.

I also think that with the upturn of results at the end of last season (and let's not forget, even with that upturn, we weren't safe mathematically until four days before the end of the season), we got a bit carried away and looked at the likes of Westwood, Sylla, Lowton, Weimann, and maybe thought that they were better than they actually were.

Yes, we improved enough to avoid relegation, but these are players who looked woefully out of their depth for the major part of a whole season.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #959 on: January 04, 2014, 11:27:35 PM »
See I disagree because if they could actually pass the ball and move off it they wouldn't need to look 'ard and big. Ozzjim and I have had this debate plenty enough, but I think we agree that the passing has to come first and it's very hard to find midfielders who are both strong and technical for less than £30m these days.

You might need £30m midfielders to compete at the top of the league.  You certainly don't need that level of player to break open a relegation threatened league 1 outfit.  I've said it before, this lot players/coaching/management would struggle in the championship.

Again, if you're relying on physique to break open a League 1 defence then maybe you should look at your players' technique.

Edit: Paulie, correct.

 


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