Quote from: Chico Hamilton III on December 16, 2013, 05:13:42 PMWhat I don't understand is why clearing the dead wood and lowering the wage bill means that Lambert has to play such a soul-destroying style of football We're by and large hard to beat, unless you're one of the top six and even then its not always easy. I think he is afraid that we have another six weeks like we did from December through to January and the style is reflecting that. We know we can play a lot better, we have seen these players do it.
What I don't understand is why clearing the dead wood and lowering the wage bill means that Lambert has to play such a soul-destroying style of football
One thing is certain when you hear that just over the last couple of days alone,the Albion ,Spurs and Watford have parted company with their managers for bad results ,Lambert is very lucky to still have his
Quote from: pooligan on December 16, 2013, 05:54:11 PM One thing is certain when you hear that just over the last couple of days alone,the Albion ,Spurs and Watford have parted company with their managers for bad results ,Lambert is very lucky to still have his West Brom have a worse record than us not only this season but over the calendar year.AVB spent an absolute fortune and his team have been thumped by two of their rivals.Watford are spiralling into oblivion now they can't have half of Serie A on loan.We are 11th.
The question has been asked of his supporters.Let them respond to that question.
Quote from: pooligan on December 16, 2013, 05:54:11 PM One thing is certain when you hear that just over the last couple of days alone,the Albion ,Spurs and Watford have parted company with their managers for bad results ,Lambert is very lucky to still have his Why would a manager be lucky to still have his job when his team are eleventh?
Quote from: eastie on December 16, 2013, 05:47:59 PMQuote from: mrfuse on December 16, 2013, 05:43:59 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 16, 2013, 05:32:06 PMI think a lot of the people who have a pop at Kozak aren't criticising him for who he is, they're doing it for who he isn't - ie they'd have rather the money was spent elsewhere where it was really needed than on a striker, so take it out on him.I'm not totally convinced by him yet, but it strikes me that he's scored a few goals so has done at least enough to still be in consideration.I agree and to me he seems to be a player that would thrive on crosses coming in from wide which isint how we are normally set-up. If Albrighton can keep up the sort of level that we have seen in glimpses then he would be the perfect outlet and creator for someone like Benteke and Kozak.At home I would like to see Benteke/Kozak upfront with Weimann just behind, Gabby left wing and Albrighton right. Agreed but for me it would be benteke Kozak and albrighton given a run in the front 3 places, with gabby as an impact sub .You think Benteke and Kozak can play in the same team though? I'm not sure myself.
Quote from: mrfuse on December 16, 2013, 05:43:59 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 16, 2013, 05:32:06 PMI think a lot of the people who have a pop at Kozak aren't criticising him for who he is, they're doing it for who he isn't - ie they'd have rather the money was spent elsewhere where it was really needed than on a striker, so take it out on him.I'm not totally convinced by him yet, but it strikes me that he's scored a few goals so has done at least enough to still be in consideration.I agree and to me he seems to be a player that would thrive on crosses coming in from wide which isint how we are normally set-up. If Albrighton can keep up the sort of level that we have seen in glimpses then he would be the perfect outlet and creator for someone like Benteke and Kozak.At home I would like to see Benteke/Kozak upfront with Weimann just behind, Gabby left wing and Albrighton right. Agreed but for me it would be benteke Kozak and albrighton given a run in the front 3 places, with gabby as an impact sub .
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on December 16, 2013, 05:32:06 PMI think a lot of the people who have a pop at Kozak aren't criticising him for who he is, they're doing it for who he isn't - ie they'd have rather the money was spent elsewhere where it was really needed than on a striker, so take it out on him.I'm not totally convinced by him yet, but it strikes me that he's scored a few goals so has done at least enough to still be in consideration.I agree and to me he seems to be a player that would thrive on crosses coming in from wide which isint how we are normally set-up. If Albrighton can keep up the sort of level that we have seen in glimpses then he would be the perfect outlet and creator for someone like Benteke and Kozak.At home I would like to see Benteke/Kozak upfront with Weimann just behind, Gabby left wing and Albrighton right.
I think a lot of the people who have a pop at Kozak aren't criticising him for who he is, they're doing it for who he isn't - ie they'd have rather the money was spent elsewhere where it was really needed than on a striker, so take it out on him.I'm not totally convinced by him yet, but it strikes me that he's scored a few goals so has done at least enough to still be in consideration.
Quote from: Clampy on December 16, 2013, 05:26:05 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on December 16, 2013, 05:24:41 PMQuote from: Clampy on December 16, 2013, 05:18:34 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on December 16, 2013, 05:12:07 PMQuote from: Ads on December 16, 2013, 05:00:42 PMThen he would be £17 million over budget on trasnfers and probably a lot more over budget in wages.Westwood and Lowton are good players. The problem is the blend just isn't right at the moment, but it takes time. Delph is an £8 million player, but its taken him a couple of years to look like it.The less money you have, the longer things take. Do you not think if he could find an international centre forward for £7m that fits our wage policy he couldn't find a midfielder too? I'm sure he could but maybe the midfielder he wanted was a lot more than £7m. He did enquire about the Japanese bloke and an enquiry is as far as it went which possibly suggests we were quoted silly money.A Plan B Midfielder would have been nice. If you can't get your target A midfield Dynamo to improve probably your weakest position I would have thought that signing a 6ft 7 centre forward isn't the best back up plan. It wasn't a back up plan, he'd been tracking him for months.So he had no back up to not getting the midfielder we've badly needed since last January's window when we were underwhelmed by Sylla? It was Kiyotake or nobody?
Quote from: aj2k77 on December 16, 2013, 05:24:41 PMQuote from: Clampy on December 16, 2013, 05:18:34 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on December 16, 2013, 05:12:07 PMQuote from: Ads on December 16, 2013, 05:00:42 PMThen he would be £17 million over budget on trasnfers and probably a lot more over budget in wages.Westwood and Lowton are good players. The problem is the blend just isn't right at the moment, but it takes time. Delph is an £8 million player, but its taken him a couple of years to look like it.The less money you have, the longer things take. Do you not think if he could find an international centre forward for £7m that fits our wage policy he couldn't find a midfielder too? I'm sure he could but maybe the midfielder he wanted was a lot more than £7m. He did enquire about the Japanese bloke and an enquiry is as far as it went which possibly suggests we were quoted silly money.A Plan B Midfielder would have been nice. If you can't get your target A midfield Dynamo to improve probably your weakest position I would have thought that signing a 6ft 7 centre forward isn't the best back up plan. It wasn't a back up plan, he'd been tracking him for months.
Quote from: Clampy on December 16, 2013, 05:18:34 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on December 16, 2013, 05:12:07 PMQuote from: Ads on December 16, 2013, 05:00:42 PMThen he would be £17 million over budget on trasnfers and probably a lot more over budget in wages.Westwood and Lowton are good players. The problem is the blend just isn't right at the moment, but it takes time. Delph is an £8 million player, but its taken him a couple of years to look like it.The less money you have, the longer things take. Do you not think if he could find an international centre forward for £7m that fits our wage policy he couldn't find a midfielder too? I'm sure he could but maybe the midfielder he wanted was a lot more than £7m. He did enquire about the Japanese bloke and an enquiry is as far as it went which possibly suggests we were quoted silly money.A Plan B Midfielder would have been nice. If you can't get your target A midfield Dynamo to improve probably your weakest position I would have thought that signing a 6ft 7 centre forward isn't the best back up plan.
Quote from: aj2k77 on December 16, 2013, 05:12:07 PMQuote from: Ads on December 16, 2013, 05:00:42 PMThen he would be £17 million over budget on trasnfers and probably a lot more over budget in wages.Westwood and Lowton are good players. The problem is the blend just isn't right at the moment, but it takes time. Delph is an £8 million player, but its taken him a couple of years to look like it.The less money you have, the longer things take. Do you not think if he could find an international centre forward for £7m that fits our wage policy he couldn't find a midfielder too? I'm sure he could but maybe the midfielder he wanted was a lot more than £7m. He did enquire about the Japanese bloke and an enquiry is as far as it went which possibly suggests we were quoted silly money.
Quote from: Ads on December 16, 2013, 05:00:42 PMThen he would be £17 million over budget on trasnfers and probably a lot more over budget in wages.Westwood and Lowton are good players. The problem is the blend just isn't right at the moment, but it takes time. Delph is an £8 million player, but its taken him a couple of years to look like it.The less money you have, the longer things take. Do you not think if he could find an international centre forward for £7m that fits our wage policy he couldn't find a midfielder too?
Then he would be £17 million over budget on trasnfers and probably a lot more over budget in wages.Westwood and Lowton are good players. The problem is the blend just isn't right at the moment, but it takes time. Delph is an £8 million player, but its taken him a couple of years to look like it.The less money you have, the longer things take.
Quote from: mrfuse on December 16, 2013, 06:00:00 PMQuote from: eastie on December 16, 2013, 05:47:59 PMQuote from: mrfuse on December 16, 2013, 05:43:59 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 16, 2013, 05:32:06 PMI think a lot of the people who have a pop at Kozak aren't criticising him for who he is, they're doing it for who he isn't - ie they'd have rather the money was spent elsewhere where it was really needed than on a striker, so take it out on him.I'm not totally convinced by him yet, but it strikes me that he's scored a few goals so has done at least enough to still be in consideration.I agree and to me he seems to be a player that would thrive on crosses coming in from wide which isint how we are normally set-up. If Albrighton can keep up the sort of level that we have seen in glimpses then he would be the perfect outlet and creator for someone like Benteke and Kozak.At home I would like to see Benteke/Kozak upfront with Weimann just behind, Gabby left wing and Albrighton right. Agreed but for me it would be benteke Kozak and albrighton given a run in the front 3 places, with gabby as an impact sub .You think Benteke and Kozak can play in the same team though? I'm not sure myself.I think we'll see on Saturday whether they can or not.
He's not lucky to still have his job, but what he needs to do is start showing firstly that he understands we haven't been playing well for a while and secondly that he's actually going to do something to address it.
Quote from: Plumbutt Cooper on December 16, 2013, 06:20:25 PMQuote from: pooligan on December 16, 2013, 05:54:11 PM One thing is certain when you hear that just over the last couple of days alone,the Albion ,Spurs and Watford have parted company with their managers for bad results ,Lambert is very lucky to still have his West Brom have a worse record than us not only this season but over the calendar year.AVB spent an absolute fortune and his team have been thumped by two of their rivals.Watford are spiralling into oblivion now they can't have half of Serie A on loan.We are 11th.Ahhh 11th - the new 4th for our ambitious manager and owner - dont think I could stand the euphoria of reaching a giddy 8th