Charles N'zogbia update

[pauliewalnuts]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-still-hoping-move-9957327

I thought he had gone!

If you read Sherwood's comments in that article, that's how you make it easier to move players on - speak well of them and keep them involved, even if you want to move them on. It makes him sound more appealing for potential buyers and means you don't ostracise him if you end up having to pay his wages for another year because nobody made an offer.

Much more sensible than creating a bomb squad and going on about their wages like Lambert did.

[mr underhill]

but with the same outcome? i.e. He's made it clear he won't play and doesn't travel with the big boys

[CT]

Every time I read what this guy is paid per week I just totally despair.

I expect Randy Lerner does too!!

[pauliewalnuts]

but with the same outcome? i.e. He's made it clear he won't play and doesn't travel with the big boys

Well, he hasn't been quite so explicit, he's left the door open, which is very different to Lambert not even letting the bomb squad players train with the adults:

“Charles is a good lad,” he said. “I have never had a problem with him.

“He is training with the group and he is applying himself very well.

“When I think it is time for him to get a place in the side he will.

“But I was looking for experience from him last season and he certainly had that, he is still there and if I need him, I know I can lean on him.”

[mr underhill]

but from all accounts Tim's desperate to flog him to raise some money ; I can't see him featuring unless we are down to the bare bones.

[pauliewalnuts]

but from all accounts Tim's desperate to flog him to raise some money ; I can't see him featuring unless we are down to the bare bones.

Neither can I, I'm not saying he wants to keep him, rather that if he wants to sell him, he's going about it the right way by making all the appropriate noises rather than just chucking him out to play with the kids and telling the press it's because his wages are too high.

He's making him sound like a player he rates while at the same time being happy to take the money for him. That's the way to do it.

[Matt Collins]

Yeah but there's a reason he's not with the squad and any prospective new club surly can't be fooled by that too much?

[pauliewalnuts]

Yeah but there's a reason he's not with the squad and any prospective new club surly can't be fooled by that too much?

He's training with them at least.

If someone wants to buy him, they will, but I never saw how the bomb squad was supposed to facilitate moving players on in any way, shape or form.

[Percy McCarthy]

Yeah but there's a reason he's not with the squad and any prospective new club surly can't be fooled by that too much?

He's training with them at least.

If someone wants to buy him, they will, but I never saw how the bomb squad was supposed to facilitate moving players on in any way, shape or form.

Exactly. "These players are like lepers at our club. Do you want to buy/employ any of them?"

[ozzjim]

He loves a good debate on twitter doesn't he!

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I've been saying for years we should raffle him.

[Ad@m]

The only vague rationale I can come up with for the bomb squad idea was that it was meant to piss those players off so much they'd be desperate to leave and would get out at the first opportunity. It didn't work of course but that's the only thing I can come up with.

As for Charlie, given how work shy he's been throughout his career, if he's training with the first team but has absolutely zero chance of doing any real work on a Saturday I can imagine he's absolutely loving life at the Villa and will take every last bit of his £63k per week until his contract is up.

[KRS]

...which says a lot about modern football and the attitudes of certain millionaire footballers when they'd rather add more money to their ever expanding bank accounts than make the most of their opportunity to actually make a career of playing football that they've been blessed with...but hey, thats a whole massive debate and can of worms for another day!

[Toronto Villa]

Then again the club offered him a deal that pays him a lot of money for what now amounts to not doing very much. He's entitled to it, and if where he might go to extend his playing career doesn't compensate to the same degree why should be doing us any favours? He's got enough years ahead of him to see out his deal and still wind up playing somewhere next season that suits his game and/or his pocket.

[mr underhill]

if there were any justice (given Charles' overriding laziness & avarice) he would then be playing for Racing Club Warwick on £100 quid a week