Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread

[silhillvilla]

Getting the distinct impression we aren't going to click until Feb again

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

Just thinking about the Everton game now I have semi left my Tottenham depression. Hoping with Benteke starting the whole atmosphere will be different and get a couple of early goals. If Gabby or Benteke had netted against spurs think we might have won that game. We need a massive lift and there is nobody better than Benteke to do just that ......

[ROBBO]

I thought towards the end of last season that we were looking a very promising side in the making, our passing was crisp and we kept posession. Although we have had a couple of wins against top clubs i feel that we have gone backwards, players that are not performing are still being picked and the football especially at home is very dull.

[dave.woodhall]

I thought towards the end of last season that we were looking a very promising side in the making, our passing was crisp and we kept posession. Although we have had a couple of wins against top clubs i feel that we have gone backwards, players that are not performing are still being picked and the football especially at home is very dull.

We score more, concede less and get better results, but we're going backwards.

[MoetVillan]

hmmm.  Thought we were a much better team against one that has spent more on players than they received for Bale than we were last year.  I was hoping for a better result, but actually thought Westwood and KEA played alright in the middle.  KEA has improved slowly and surely against the player I saw for most of last season. 

[supertom]

I thought towards the end of last season that we were looking a very promising side in the making, our passing was crisp and we kept posession. Although we have had a couple of wins against top clubs i feel that we have gone backwards, players that are not performing are still being picked and the football especially at home is very dull.

We score more, concede less and get better results, but we're going backwards.

Our passing certainly has gone backwards. Normally to Guzan.
Eh thank you.

No, I think the fact our passing has been largely bobbins is that we've played all but 1 of the top 6 sides in our first 8 games. We're always going to struggle to keep the ball on the rare times we get it back. Top teams don't give you time and space. If you want to beat them for possession it becomes a battle of technique, skill and passing ability, which we're always going to lose against top 6 sides. There's only one stat that matters of course, come the end and in all honesty winning 3 games thus far isn't bad going.

[ROBBO]

I thought towards the end of last season that we were looking a very promising side in the making, our passing was crisp and we kept posession. Although we have had a couple of wins against top clubs i feel that we have gone backwards, players that are not performing are still being picked and the football especially at home is very dull.


We score more, concede less and get better results, but we're going backwards.

And stats never lie? I just know what i see and that is a team that consistantly has lower possession than the opposition especially at home. That tells me we cannot hold onto the ball, highlighted in the Spurs game.

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If you know what you'd seen this season, then you would be able to recognise we have played Arsenal away, Chelsea away, Liverpool at home, Man City at home and Spurs at home.

What is it about those hundred million pound teams, with their twenty million pound signings that you think gives them the edge over us 3 times out of 5? That’s a hundred million pound question if ever I say one.

[Clampy]

I don't think we've gone backwards. I think we're getting better albeit slowly. The defence looks a lot more organised than last season and I think 10 points is probably roughly what people would have expected us to be on so far anyway. Personally I think we should have beaten Hull but other than that, it's gone pretty much as i'd expected.

[sirlordbaltimore]

I have to agree with the poster above, we may be picking up more points on a match for match comparison with last season. But nobody will convince me we're progressing as a football side.

We still play woeful football in the majority of games this season, there's very little to cling onto in terms of seeing some footballing progression or a style being put in place either (unless you class counter attacking as a welcome style of course)

I'm amazed that Lambert hasn't got something in place by now, he must've spent nearly 35m-40m over the two big windows on developing his side. Big Ron and Little moulded teams with a style within much shorter periods (both by the time their first full seasons hit the ground at least)

The only things pundits seem to have us pegged as are counter attacking, long ball merchants with little chance of dominating possession. Which they seem to be able to back up with stats. We may have fluked a few wins against two bigger sides, but surely that isn't fooling anyone that watches us regularly ?

I'd say the Hull/Newcastle games are more the real us, and that worries me greatly.

[dave.woodhall]

I thought towards the end of last season that we were looking a very promising side in the making, our passing was crisp and we kept posession. Although we have had a couple of wins against top clubs i feel that we have gone backwards, players that are not performing are still being picked and the football especially at home is very dull.


We score more, concede less and get better results, but we're going backwards.

And stats never lie? I just know what i see and that is a team that consistantly has lower possession than the opposition especially at home. That tells me we cannot hold onto the ball, highlighted in the Spurs game.

Nobody used to mention possession until TV coverage started flashing it up at every opportunity. The day you get points for artistic interpretation will be the day I worry about any figure except goals.

[dave.woodhall]

I have to agree with the poster above, we may be picking up more points on a match for match comparison with last season. But nobody will convince me we're progressing as a football side.

We still play woeful football in the majority of games this season, there's very little to cling onto in terms of seeing some footballing progression or a style being put in place either (unless you class counter attacking as a welcome style of course)

I'm amazed that Lambert hasn't got something in place by now, he must've spent nearly 35m-40m over the two big windows on developing his side. Big Ron and Little moulded teams with a style within much shorter periods (both by the time their first full seasons hit the ground at least)

The only things pundits seem to have us pegged as are counter attacking, long ball merchants with little chance of dominating possession. Which they seem to be able to back up with stats. We may have fluked a few wins against two bigger sides, but surely that isn't fooling anyone that watches us regularly ?

I'd say the Hull/Newcastle games are more the real us, and that worries me greatly.

Our wins are flukes and our draws/defeats are the 'real' us. Nice one.

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You're being too kind Dave, utter bollocks is an accurate description of the myth he is peddling.

[jeowje]

In the eras of Brian Little and Ron Atkinson there was a more level playing field. It was much more feasible to go out and buy players capable of performing at the top end of the table.

[saunders_heroes]

In the eras of Brian Little and Ron Atkinson there was a more level playing field. It was much more feasible to go out and buy players capable of performing at the top end of the table.

Big Ron bought players with PL experience in his tenure. No wonder we hit the ground running.