Quote from: mackattak on September 02, 2013, 01:00:41 PMQuote from: Clark W Griswold on September 01, 2013, 09:37:30 PMYep, experienced defensive player needed, not another goddam forward.Best form of defence is offence. 😃Don't get me wrong, a Czech International and player at a club like Lazio should have something about him, and he gets a welcome from me, but i really think we are failing to address the more important requirement of an experienced central defender or defensive central midfielder once again. And i think this place will be in uproar a few months down the line when good teams with good tactics keep slicing through us like a knife through butter like Liverpool did in the first half last week, and so many did last season. I think we are better for Okore and Luna, but still not quite there.
Quote from: Clark W Griswold on September 01, 2013, 09:37:30 PMYep, experienced defensive player needed, not another goddam forward.Best form of defence is offence. 😃
Yep, experienced defensive player needed, not another goddam forward.
I don't think the fee will be £7m. £5m max.
Maybe we're not looking at an attacking midfielder because Grealish is more in Lamberts plans than we think? He's certainly got the skills we need in there.
Lambert has obviously seen the chance to sign a player that he rates. It provides cover for Benteke that we don't really have, is an upgrade on Bowery and is also perhaps seen by Lambert as a replacement for Benteke if he leaves next summer.
Quote from: paul_e on September 02, 2013, 01:09:27 PMMaybe we're not looking at an attacking midfielder because Grealish is more in Lamberts plans than we think? He's certainly got the skills we need in there.There are carr-others.
Quote from: Clark W Griswold on September 02, 2013, 01:13:44 PMQuote from: mackattak on September 02, 2013, 01:00:41 PMQuote from: Clark W Griswold on September 01, 2013, 09:37:30 PMYep, experienced defensive player needed, not another goddam forward.Best form of defence is offence. 😃Don't get me wrong, a Czech International and player at a club like Lazio should have something about him, and he gets a welcome from me, but i really think we are failing to address the more important requirement of an experienced central defender or defensive central midfielder once again. And i think this place will be in uproar a few months down the line when good teams with good tactics keep slicing through us like a knife through butter like Liverpool did in the first half last week, and so many did last season. I think we are better for Okore and Luna, but still not quite there.If you expect to see us playing in a way that stops goals like the liverpool one then I'm fairly sure you're going to be disappointed. If, however, you expect to see us creating chance like we did in the 2nd half vs Arsenal then you'll probably enjoy this season.We don't need a central defender this window, we have 4 who all deserve a chance to prove themselves and we won't sign a midfield destroyer under Lambert, they just don't fit the model.
Quote from: paul_e on September 02, 2013, 01:18:09 PMQuote from: Clark W Griswold on September 02, 2013, 01:13:44 PMQuote from: mackattak on September 02, 2013, 01:00:41 PMQuote from: Clark W Griswold on September 01, 2013, 09:37:30 PMYep, experienced defensive player needed, not another goddam forward.Best form of defence is offence. 😃Don't get me wrong, a Czech International and player at a club like Lazio should have something about him, and he gets a welcome from me, but i really think we are failing to address the more important requirement of an experienced central defender or defensive central midfielder once again. And i think this place will be in uproar a few months down the line when good teams with good tactics keep slicing through us like a knife through butter like Liverpool did in the first half last week, and so many did last season. I think we are better for Okore and Luna, but still not quite there.If you expect to see us playing in a way that stops goals like the liverpool one then I'm fairly sure you're going to be disappointed. If, however, you expect to see us creating chance like we did in the 2nd half vs Arsenal then you'll probably enjoy this season.We don't need a central defender this window, we have 4 who all deserve a chance to prove themselves and we won't sign a midfield destroyer under Lambert, they just don't fit the model.We need a captain. An experienced player who can lead the rest of the team. I would say that central mid would be preferable to centre back, as i agree that Okore looks good, but would take either. I wasn't so much concerned with the goal Liverpool scored as that was a quality move by Liverpool rather than bad defending, but i was concerned with how our lightweight looking and inexperienced midfield got overrun throughout the first half, which ultimately led to the defeat. We have some very talented players in that midfield but we lack the type of player i'm referring to.I think a very promising squad will still be missing a vital ingredient if we don't address it.