Libor Kozák (confirmed post #190)

[BoskoDjembaSalifou]

Vlaar was awful last year, don't pretend he wasn't.

And your point is what?

Toronto Villa said he wasn't. I was replying to him without quoting the post.

He wasn't poor last year, he was trying to adjust to the Premiership. And this year he is better. It happens.

There's a very good chance Kozak will have got used to the English game by then as well, but if you want to write him off in December, then fine.

It may seem like I am but I'm not writing him off yet! I haven't been impressed and yes, I think he's shit but opinions change.

[Clampy]

Vlaar was awful last year, don't pretend he wasn't.

And your point is what?

Toronto Villa said he wasn't. I was replying to him without quoting the post.

He wasn't poor last year, he was trying to adjust to the Premiership. And this year he is better. It happens.

There's a very good chance Kozak will have got used to the English game by then as well, but if you want to write him off in December, then fine.

It may seem like I am but I'm not writing him off yet! I haven't been impressed and yes, I think he's shit but opinions change.

What a classic cop out after several posts of arguing. Marvellously stupid.

[paul_e]

by calling him shit you are writing him off, how can you not realise that?

If you weren't writing him off you'd be saying that you expect more, 'he is shit' is a definitive statement that doesn't give room for any other interpretation.

Personally I think he's a good finisher but needs to get the ball to feet, preferably facing goal, he looks a much better player then than when he's having long balls fired onto his head.  Therefore I firmly believe the team need to adapt to him as much as he needs to adapt to the league.  If everyone manages that he will score regularly enough to be a valuable part of the squad, even if he isn't as good as Benteke.

[GarTomas]

He's made what, half a dozen appearances so far.  Far too early to be writing him off.

One thing though, he's scored some goals in a side that most agree isn't hugely creative.

[mrfuse]

It was great to see a proper celebration into the crowd, loved it.

Did he get booked for doing it by the way?

[Ads]

I didn't see him get booked, but expect he was.

[Dave Cooper please]

He was booked.

[Matt Collins]

I haven't written him. But I think he's shit.

Brilliant

[mrfuse]

He was booked.

Personally I hate bookings for Celebrating goals.

[OCD]

He was booked.

Personally I hate bookings for Celebrating goals.

So do refs but it's a UEFA/FIFA thing. It's made even more stupid when players take their shirts off at the end of a game without punishment. I think it came about when there was a phase of players wearing t-shirts underneath with messages on them and then lifting their shirt when celebrating. I think that had to be banned but they made a mess of it.

[adrenachrome]

I like him. He gets in where it hurts.

[Caiphus]

I don't think he is terrible at holding up the ball... very few players can hold up the ball for the length of time required to arrive to support with the system we were playing yesterday.  He'd be 1 vs 4 for 5 seconds, in a normal system he would only need to hold on to it for two or 3 before support arrived which I think he is very capable of... not brilliant, but more than serviceable.  It's more his layoffs and passing that I worry about.

[ciggiesnbeer]

He is taking a while to come up to the speed of the English game versus Italy. I love his scrappy finishing and he gets into some very good positions. His passing is pretty godawful right now, it has to be said so is Benteke right now. Dunno if its nerves or formation.

[Dante Lavelli]

Based on the evidence I have seen so far he's like Bent in the sense he scores goals but looks a bit limited as a footballer.  However he looks like he'll throw himself about a bit and has often been described as a "trier" in this thread.  Add in the fact that with his build he's a more natural fit to play 4231, 433 and the cheaper wages then I think he seems to be a decent upgrade on Bent as our reserve striker.

What's not to like, so far?

[Malandro]

He's done a good job in a struggling team - scored goals, put huge amount of effort in.  I'm very pleased he signed.

I suggest anybody who thinks he is a shit player should get a seat right on the edge of the pitch. When a ball is belted by the keeper or defender at speed, it is actually bloody hard to control.

To get a goal when the team has 27% of possession should also be applauded!