Chavski date announced

[richard moore]

It seems people are letting their hatred of Chelsea get in the way of looking at the game objectively.

It's 3 days after we'll have put our all in to a no doubt tough game at Arsenal. If we go with a full strength eleven for the second time in 4 days, it may well be a close affair where we fight to the end, give the old '110%' but most likely will end up with nothing.

This then leaves us at less than 100% going into a very winnable home game against Liverpool 3 days later, where they will have no Luis Suarez.

I'd much rather see us fully fresh for the Liverpool game and get 3 points there. If we go into it at 80-90%, I'd fancy us to only get a point max, leaving us with 0-1 points after 3 games.

With respect ,you've already written this load of cobblers once. Do you really have to repeat it all? It's nothing to do with hating that despicable bunch of scum no class tossers and everything to do with the fact that we are Aston Villa. And we don't take that mentality into any game against any team. The Arsenal game will be as tough for them as it is for us and the day I fear us playing Millwall with money is the day I give up following football

Ha ha, the post that starts 'with respect' and is then with no respect at all.

Think you'll find in my first post I posted one line after I said I'd rest players against Chelsea, my latest post I gave the full reasoning as to why.

Hadn't you already posted your load of cobblers about 'Millwall with money' once already? We are talking about a team here with the 5th highest average attendance overall in English football. You may wish to kid yourself that we are bigger or better because we won a load of league titles before they had even formed but I prefer to view things without the claret and blue specs permanently on.

I'm afraid we are very different sorts of Villa fans, poles apart in fact, so let's just leave it at that. Your idea of us resting much of the first team second game in against an unknown entity with a new manager and a number of new players beggars belief quite frankly. I wonder what any manager worth his salt and with pride in his club would make of your suggestion. You're right, I have no respect for it at all and I certainly don't think you show Aston Villa one iota of respect either. Mind you, hats off to you, you have a very healthy respect for that bunch of despicable tossers

[LeeB]

It seems people are letting their hatred of Chelsea get in the way of looking at the game objectively.

It's 3 days after we'll have put our all in to a no doubt tough game at Arsenal. If we go with a full strength eleven for the second time in 4 days, it may well be a close affair where we fight to the end, give the old '110%' but most likely will end up with nothing.

This then leaves us at less than 100% going into a very winnable home game against Liverpool 3 days later, where they will have no Luis Suarez.

I'd much rather see us fully fresh for the Liverpool game and get 3 points there. If we go into it at 80-90%, I'd fancy us to only get a point max, leaving us with 0-1 points after 3 games.

With respect ,you've already written this load of cobblers once. Do you really have to repeat it all? It's nothing to do with hating that despicable bunch of scum no class tossers and everything to do with the fact that we are Aston Villa. And we don't take that mentality into any game against any team. The Arsenal game will be as tough for them as it is for us and the day I fear us playing Millwall with money is the day I give up following football

Ha ha, the post that starts 'with respect' and is then with no respect at all.

Think you'll find in my first post I posted one line after I said I'd rest players against Chelsea, my latest post I gave the full reasoning as to why.

Hadn't you already posted your load of cobblers about 'Millwall with money' once already? We are talking about a team here with the 5th highest average attendance overall in English football. You may wish to kid yourself that we are bigger or better because we won a load of league titles before they had even formed but I prefer to view things without the claret and blue specs permanently on.

Congratulations sir, as that last paragraph is the biggest pile of horseshit I've read on here in a long time.

[AVH87]

It seems people are letting their hatred of Chelsea get in the way of looking at the game objectively.

It's 3 days after we'll have put our all in to a no doubt tough game at Arsenal. If we go with a full strength eleven for the second time in 4 days, it may well be a close affair where we fight to the end, give the old '110%' but most likely will end up with nothing.

This then leaves us at less than 100% going into a very winnable home game against Liverpool 3 days later, where they will have no Luis Suarez.

I'd much rather see us fully fresh for the Liverpool game and get 3 points there. If we go into it at 80-90%, I'd fancy us to only get a point max, leaving us with 0-1 points after 3 games.

With respect ,you've already written this load of cobblers once. Do you really have to repeat it all? It's nothing to do with hating that despicable bunch of scum no class tossers and everything to do with the fact that we are Aston Villa. And we don't take that mentality into any game against any team. The Arsenal game will be as tough for them as it is for us and the day I fear us playing Millwall with money is the day I give up following football

Ha ha, the post that starts 'with respect' and is then with no respect at all.

Think you'll find in my first post I posted one line after I said I'd rest players against Chelsea, my latest post I gave the full reasoning as to why.

Hadn't you already posted your load of cobblers about 'Millwall with money' once already? We are talking about a team here with the 5th highest average attendance overall in English football. You may wish to kid yourself that we are bigger or better because we won a load of league titles before they had even formed but I prefer to view things without the claret and blue specs permanently on.

I'm afraid we are very different sorts of Villa fans, poles apart in fact, so let's just leave it at that. Your idea of us resting much of the first team second game in against an unknown entity with a new manager and a number of new players beggars belief quite frankly. I wonder what any manager worth his salt and with pride in his club would make of your suggestion. You're right, I have no respect for it at all and I certainly don't think you show Aston Villa one iota of respect either. Mind you, hats off to you, you have a very healthy respect for that bunch of despicable tossers

Fair enough. I've seen what I've seen over the past 20-odd years of following the club and many Villa fans who have been following the club a lot longer than I have often see the club in a very different light to myself.

[AVH87]

Think you'll find in my first post I posted one line after I said I'd rest players against Chelsea, my latest post I gave the full reasoning as to why.

Hadn't you already posted your load of cobblers about 'Millwall with money' once already? We are talking about a team here with the 5th highest average attendance overall in English football. You may wish to kid yourself that we are bigger or better because we won a load of league titles before they had even formed but I prefer to view things without the claret and blue specs permanently on.

Congratulations sir, as that last paragraph is the biggest pile of horseshit I've read on here in a long time.

That's your opinion, but it contains factually correct statements so you'd be best not to argue with all of it.

[LeeB]

Think you'll find in my first post I posted one line after I said I'd rest players against Chelsea, my latest post I gave the full reasoning as to why.

Hadn't you already posted your load of cobblers about 'Millwall with money' once already? We are talking about a team here with the 5th highest average attendance overall in English football. You may wish to kid yourself that we are bigger or better because we won a load of league titles before they had even formed but I prefer to view things without the claret and blue specs permanently on.

Congratulations sir, as that last paragraph is the biggest pile of horseshit I've read on here in a long time.

That's your opinion, but it contains factually correct statements so you'd be best not to argue with all of it.

Think you'll find in my first post I posted one line after I said I'd rest players against Chelsea, my latest post I gave the full reasoning as to why.

Hadn't you already posted your load of cobblers about 'Millwall with money' once already? We are talking about a team here with the 5th highest average attendance overall in English football. You may wish to kid yourself that we are bigger or better because we won a load of league titles before they had even formed but I prefer to view things without the claret and blue specs permanently on.

Congratulations sir, as that last paragraph is the biggest pile of horseshit I've read on here in a long time.

That's your opinion, but it contains factually correct statements so you'd be best not to argue with all of it.

Forgive me, I must have imagined standing on a crumbling terrace in 1993 with 16,000 others, about a third of who were Villa fans.

They're a 'tourist team' mate, the only club that was formed as a business enterprise to exploit the growing popularity of football.

Have a look at how their attendances dropped off once the swinging sixties/kings road bollocks died off in the early seventies, right up till Ruud Gullit turned up. Post war they had some good players, and with the ease of public transport around London they'd draw in plenty of spectators like my father-in-law who's solid Crystal Palace, but used to go and watch whoever had a decent side in London when they were away.

Their is absolutely nothing in their history to suggest we treat them in the manor you'd originally intended though, but then that goes for any club in the game.

That kind of thinking went out the door with McLeish.

[andyaston]

They were averaging less than 10,000 in the late 1980s in the old second division. My Bluenose mate at the time went to Stamford Bridge and showed me the programme which at the back had their attendences. They're gate of under 6,000 for the Walsall game was shocking!

[AVH87]

That's your opinion, but it contains factually correct statements so you'd be best not to argue with all of it.

Forgive me, I must have imagined standing on a crumbling terrace in 1993 with 16,000 others, about a third of who were Villa fans.

They're a 'tourist team' mate, the only club that was formed as a business enterprise to exploit the growing popularity of football.

Have a look at how their attendances dropped off once the swinging sixties/kings road bollocks died off in the early seventies, right up till Ruud Gullit turned up. Post war they had some good players, and with the ease of public transport around London they'd draw in plenty of spectators like my father-in-law who's solid Crystal Palace, but used to go and watch whoever had a decent side in London when they were away.

Their is absolutely nothing in their history to suggest we treat them in the manor you'd originally intended though, but then that goes for any club in the game.

That kind of thinking went out the door with McLeish.

Being in London does give them that easy avenue to boost their attendances when times are good, sure.

I still don't think they used to be as badly supported as people like to make out pre Abramovich and pre Premier League.

Historical attendances are on this site if anyone's interested: http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm

The season they spent in the old second division in the late 80s (1989) they averaged just under 16,000.

[Stu]

Resting players against any team who we are in direct competition to is disrespectful to everyone concerned, the team, the fans, the opposition and their supporters.

You sound like you've given up.

[PeterWithesShin]

Chavski are such a big club they got less than 9,000 for a Premier League game at home to Coventry. They also failed to average 25K in a season from 1979 until 1996. Funny how that is the season Gullit turned up.

[Stu]

Chavski are such a big club they got less than 9,000 for a Premier League game at home to Coventry. They also failed to average 25K in a season from 1979 until 1996. Funny how that is the season Gullit turned up.

Quietest ground I've ever been to, Stamford Bridge. Much quieter than Arsenal and the Emirates gets a bad rap for that.

[TheSandman]

We had a good record against Chelsea under Mourinho the first time round, didn't we? So it might not be the lost cause that some make it out to be.

[Stu]

There's some Chelsea twat that drinks in a local by me. He took great pleasure in telling me he sits in the Villa end when Chelsea turn up, and for some reason got offended when I told that if I see him there, I'd grass him up.

Plus, he failed the glory hunter question for all nouveau-Chelsea fans; Who was Nigel Spackman?

Cock.

[SoccerHQ]

We had a good record against Chelsea under Mourinho the first time round, didn't we? So it might not be the lost cause that some make it out to be.

At home yeah. I believe Villa Park is the only premier league ground that Mourinho has visited more than once that he has yet to win at.

[TheTimVilla]

Dad is from Hammersmith and used to go to all the London grounds, as he couldn't get to Birmingham. So his knowledge of Chelsea (in fact all the London teams) post-war is pretty impressive. My Chelsea knowledge extends to Panini 84, etc.

A couple of years back, Dad and I were drinking in the pub opposite Fulham Broadway station (The White Hart?), before a Chelsea v Villa match. So we were sat at this table, with about 6 Chelsea fans. Dad waxing lyrical about some 50s centre forward, me talking about Doug Rougvie, Pat Nevin, etc. We didn't let on for ages that we were Villa fans, but didn't tacitly deny it. After a while, we decided to drop it in to discussion. How did they react? They simultaneously stopped talking to us and turned their backs on us! Even when we started laughing at them, they simply wouldn't talk to us any more! Bless.

[Legion]

I remember the FA Cup Final 2000 well for other reasons. Four of us were travelling to Wembley on the tube and the atmosphere was great. Really friendly. At one of the stops the carriage was invaded by rather a large number of aggressive, pissed-up Chelsea fans. Atmosphere changed immediately. Coat zips were done up sharpish.