Jores Okore

[Billy Walker]

Their average attendance last season was about 48k. They play in Europe every year, yet they never seem to be particularly laden with money. Even with exceptional gate receipts (given the shiteness of that league, particularly post Rangers demotion). At the end of the day they've gone and borrowed Tonev from us...Tonev. We've lent them Tonev...just let that sink in for a bit. Tonev.
It's largely been a league where average players go to have an easy life. John Hartson, Chris Sutton. Middle of the road players past their best going up there to knock goals in for fun.

Even if just for their European aspirations, with the money they earn and gauranteed CL, they should be trying to entice top players there. Their star striker is Anthony Stokes who'd be out of his depth in the Premiership. For good money and the European games they could probably tempt quality players if they wanted to. Certain players would go anywhere for money and CL football even if they just give a year before jumping back to a proper league.  It's all a bit small time up there though.

They get much of their big club status just by being one of the two biggest clubs in Scotland. You look in England there's a whole host of very big clubs that aren't even in the Premiership, like Notts Forest, Leeds etc.

If Celtic had been in our league for the last twenty years, I'm afraid they wouldn't have been borrowing Tonev. They'd be one of the c**** after Barry, Milner and Young.

I reckon they'd either be on the verge of sacking Pardew or somewhere in the Championship.  They wouldn't have had a sniff of the Champs League places (or any trophy for that matter) and they'd be playing regularly in a half to three-quarters full Parkhead.  They'd be in a similar position to us but in a smaller city.

[silhillvilla]

Dunno , the Celtic fans go week in week out in numbers regardless of form, match time weather etc. bit like the bar codes fans.

[Billy Walker]

Dunno , the Celtic fans go week in week out in numbers regardless of form, match time weather etc. bit like the bar codes fans.

Like Newcastle, that hasn't always been the case - check out their crowds before Parkhead was expanded.  You're right, though, they seem to have a similar kind of mentality and attitude towards following football as Newcastle (and Rangers and Sunderland). 

[Stu]

Celtic's international support and related merchandising opportunities would see them eclipse all but four clubs in the Prem, same with Rangers. I know Newscastle get 50k every home game, but outside of Newcastle how any Newcastle United shirts do you see?

Celtic have a worldwide 'rebel' brand that people buy into, particularly in the USA. With their gates, the ability to sell tv rights on their name alone they'd be right up there at the very top.

[brian green]

I watched the Rangers Hibs game last night and Rangers were unbelievably bad. They made Hibs look a quality side. All the Rangers players played as though they were owed six months wages. MK Dons would have thrashed them. They looked like a team of shaven headed night club bouncers. And still they pulled in 32,000

[Chico Hamilton III]

I watched the Rangers Hibs game last night and Rangers were unbelievably bad. They made Hibs look a quality side. All the Rangers players played as though they were owed six months wages. MK Dons would have thrashed them. They looked like a team of shaven headed night club bouncers. And still they pulled in 32,000

Rangers, Hearts and Hibs all in the Scottish second tier this year. It's more interesting than the SPL

[bobdylan]

Celtic's international support and related merchandising opportunities would see them eclipse all but four clubs in the Prem, same with Rangers. I know Newscastle get 50k every home game, but outside of Newcastle how any Newcastle United shirts do you see?

Celtic have a worldwide 'rebel' brand that people buy into, particularly in the USA. With their gates, the ability to sell tv rights on their name alone they'd be right up there at the very top.

Four clubs, more like 6 (last year's top 7 less maybe Everton).

[silhillvilla]

I went to a rangers v Dundee Utd game in the early 90's, I've never seen so much misdirected anger, abuse and attempted violence at a football game ever. There was literally a cavalry of police horses at the game.

[Percy McCarthy]

Celtic's international support and related merchandising opportunities would see them eclipse all but four clubs in the Prem, same with Rangers. I know Newscastle get 50k every home game, but outside of Newcastle how any Newcastle United shirts do you see?

Celtic have a worldwide 'rebel' brand that people buy into, particularly in the USA. With their gates, the ability to sell tv rights on their name alone they'd be right up there at the very top.

Exactly.

[silhillvilla]

This is not a rebel song, this is Celtic bloody Celtic.

[cheltenhamlion]

I have no great amount of time for either team but I am not going to do another round about the bigoted bastards on the Okore thread.

[hipkiss92]

Dunno , the Celtic fans go week in week out in numbers regardless of form, match time weather etc. bit like the bar codes fans.

Like Newcastle, that hasn't always been the case - check out their crowds before Parkhead was expanded.  You're right, though, they seem to have a similar kind of mentality and attitude towards following football as Newcastle (and Rangers and Sunderland). 

Is this because it's well grim up north (and Scotland)? And there's nothing else to do.

[PaulWinch again]

I think it's been long enough now, he made it through two games for Denmark in a week so I'm guessing he's ready. We should be phasing back into the first team.

[Ads]

Can we stop talking about shit clubs please?

[Dave Cooper please]

Arsenal are bigger than Rangers for me. 

Considering The Rangers are only just over two years old, Bilston Town are bigger than they are.