£45m

[mrastonvilla]

I like the idea of C also, like a floating half season ticket. Maybe you could sell it so that people could redeem the credit for tickets prior to the matches they want and give the opportunity to do this before tickets go on general sale.

Although some restriction would have to be in place to prevent people just picking the cat A matches which are easier to sell anyway!

Easy to do at lower division or non-league clubs where they will realistically never sell-out the ground, but not really practical at clubs which sometimes do reach capacity.

Why not? Sell it so that you pay upfront for a specific category of seating in the ground and can pick seats in that category for X cat A matches, Y Cat B and Z value matches over the season. If you let people pick the seats before match by match tickets go on general sale then the ground wont be sold out.

Sounds a good deal to have a regular involvement with the club if the one factor prevent you having a normal season ticket is the constant buggering around with KO times by SKY.

[placeforparks]

kick-off times change after matches go to general sale, due to sky and the europa league.

from the club's perspective, this pick 'n' mix ticket idea sounds like a massive pain in the arse, for very little gain.

[Chico Hamilton III]

I wasn't actually thinking about economics, business models, projected figures, increasing attendances or any of that bollocks when I suggested reducing season tickets by £100.

I just thought that, since we picked up £45m for a season where the fans played a major part in keeping the club in the division ( which, in turn, guarantees us the highest payday in our history next season, which, in turn, will make our already super-rich players even richer) that the club might want to share the good fortune and make a truly generous gesture to its long suffering supporters.

Very idealsitic/naive of me, I know.

 

[mrastonvilla]

kick-off times change after matches go to general sale, due to sky and the europa league.

from the club's perspective, this pick 'n' mix ticket idea sounds like a massive pain in the arse, for very little gain.

Trying to sell and administer the best part of 20,000 match by match tickets every couple of weeks I would imagine to be a massive pain in the arse anyway, but at £20-40 each there is something to gain by doing it.

[Villadroid]

I wasn't actually thinking about economics, business models, projected figures, increasing attendances or any of that bollocks when I suggested reducing season tickets by £100.

I just thought that, since we picked up £45m for a season where the fans played a major part in keeping the club in the division ( which, in turn, guarantees us the highest payday in our history next season, which, in turn, will make our already super-rich players even richer) that the club might want to share the good fortune and make a truly generous gesture to its long suffering supporters.

Very idealsitic/naive of me, I know.

 

Outside the capitalist paradigm it is a quite reasonable suggestion.

It is a measure of the dominance of capitalist ideology that we assume that everything has to be judged within the framework of that ideology.

[Chris Harte]

I like the idea of £100 off my season ticket for next season. Assuming we have 25,000 season ticket holders (I'm being speculative), it would cost £2.5M in revenues to the club. But then the club could boast what even better than ever value it is, and it might give a nudge to those picking and choosing 9 or 10 home games a season, or having a half-ST to go the whole hog and get a full-ST.

I'd suggest the £2.5M (or approx £50k p/w) is approximately a Shay Given, Stephen Ireland or Richard Dunne.

[Fergal]

Why are German season tickets so much cheaper than ours?

[dave.woodhall]

Why are German season tickets so much cheaper than ours?

Because their supporters are better organized and wouldn't stand for it.

[Dave Javu]

Where we are at is that the rich clubs get richer and the smaller clubs just cannot compete.

So why not reverse the prize money so the Champions get £39m and the last-placed club gets £60m?

Perhaps this would make a more competitive league.

[myf]

Why are German season tickets so much cheaper than ours?

Because their supporters are better organized and wouldn't stand for it.

Don't the fans own 49% of each club as well?  Not only that you can drink and scoff sausages on the terraces!

[Fergal]

Why are German season tickets so much cheaper than ours?

Because their supporters are better organized and wouldn't stand for it.

More fool us then...

[dave.woodhall]

Why are German season tickets so much cheaper than ours?

Because their supporters are better organized and wouldn't stand for it.

More fool us then...

Think about that next time you routinely call another team's supporters 'scum' or worse.

[danlanza]

I wasn't actually thinking about economics, business models, projected figures, increasing attendances or any of that bollocks when I suggested reducing season tickets by £100.

I just thought that, since we picked up £45m for a season where the fans played a major part in keeping the club in the division ( which, in turn, guarantees us the highest payday in our history next season, which, in turn, will make our already super-rich players even richer) that the club might want to share the good fortune and make a truly generous gesture to its long suffering supporters.

Very idealsitic/naive of me, I know.

 

Outside the capitalist paradigm it is a quite reasonable suggestion.

It is a measure of the dominance of capitalist ideology that we assume that everything has to be judged within the framework of that ideology.

Are you an Alien, or David Icke in disguise Villadroid, or are you just a very intelligent person ? Just asking like.

[Ad@m]

Why are German season tickets so much cheaper than ours?

Because their supporters are better organized and wouldn't stand for it.

Don't the fans own 49% of each club as well?  Not only that you can drink and scoff sausages on the terraces!

I think it's 51% - I think the rule is that no one person or organisation can own more than 50% of any club* and that's for me the real reason the Bundesliga hasn't become as commercialised as the Premier League.

(* This rule is not universal - VfL Wolfsburg are owned by VW and Bayer Leverkusen are owned by Bayer.  I also think Hoffenheim are owned by a multi-millionaire and that's how they came flying through the divisions and were leading the Bundesliga at one point.  I've also got a recollection that there is a 20 year rule that says that if someone has owned 49% of a club for 20 years they have a right to buy the rest of the club - I'm sure I read or heard about this but I can't find any reference to it on a quick Google search.)

[Dave Cooper please]

I like the idea of C also, like a floating half season ticket. Maybe you could sell it so that people could redeem the credit for tickets prior to the matches they want and give the opportunity to do this before tickets go on general sale.

Although some restriction would have to be in place to prevent people just picking the cat A matches which are easier to sell anyway!

Easy to do at lower division or non-league clubs where they will realistically never sell-out the ground, but not really practical at clubs which sometimes do reach capacity.

Why not? Sell it so that you pay upfront for a specific category of seating in the ground and can pick seats in that category for X cat A matches, Y Cat B and Z value matches over the season. If you let people pick the seats before match by match tickets go on general sale then the ground wont be sold out.

Sounds a good deal to have a regular involvement with the club if the one factor prevent you having a normal season ticket is the constant buggering around with KO times by SKY.

You aren't going to sell many of those considering that for most of our poorly attended games Villa already do ticket deals.