Darren Bent joins Fulham on loan (Reply #486)

[teamvillage]

Assuming the loan fee isn't peanuts (let's say 2m), Faulkner's actually played a blinder here. By loaning him we're not liable for the loyalty payment, so that 2m is 'clean' money - with the potential to do the same (or just flog him) next year.

If we'd sold him for £6m we'd have had to pay the vast majority of that fee directly to Bent as his loyalty payment.

[pauliewalnuts]

Assuming the loan fee isn't peanuts (let's say 2m), Faulkner's actually played a blinder here. By loaning him we're not liable for the loyalty payment, so that 2m is 'clean' money - with the potential to do the same (or just flog him) next year.

If we'd sold him for £6m we'd have had to pay the vast majority of that fee directly to Bent as his loyalty payment.

We don't actually know any of the things you mention, though, do we? I mean we don't know about there being a 2m loyalty payment which we've dodged or that he'd be due the majority of the fee.

[pauliewalnuts]

I'd prefer a decent defender.

Me too. I'm staggered to think we're going into a new season with that back line.

Without sounding doom and gloomy, I agree.

We haven't seen much of Okore, but it's an awful lot to expect of such a young player who has never played in this league before.

I am very excited at the thought of watching us go forward, but equally terrified at the thought of us having to defend.

[john e]

where are we with Bents transfer/loan, as he actually signed for anyone yet ?

[Smoke]

I think teamvillage is on the right lines though,

If you assume that had be sold bent we'd be liable to pay up the rest of his contract (I believe this is the case? )

A loan of £2M plus wages paid for a season has saved us having to pay a year of Bents wages, plus we get £2M as a bonus.

Selling for £4M now and paying Bent £6.7M for the rest of his contract VS Loan for £2M now and wages paid then sell next year for £3.5M and we're £2M better off.

[Dave]

Assuming the loan fee isn't peanuts (let's say 2m), Faulkner's actually played a blinder here. By loaning him we're not liable for the loyalty payment, so that 2m is 'clean' money - with the potential to do the same (or just flog him) next year.

If we'd sold him for £6m we'd have had to pay the vast majority of that fee directly to Bent as his loyalty payment.

We don't actually know any of the things you mention, though, do we? I mean we don't know about there being a 2m loyalty payment which we've dodged or that he'd be due the majority of the fee.

Well, we do know that if he were sold without requesting a transfer then we'd need to pay up the majority of his contract.

Just as we will next year if we sell him, but it still reduces what he needs to be paid.

[Clampy]

It's officially gone through.

[supertom]

If we weren't getting much better than offers of 4 million quid for a permanent then this deal makes a lot of sense. As said, we get a loan fee, and we get his wages off the books for a year. I think we've got a good deal to be honest. If he scores 20 goals, come next season we'll be in a position to ask for a better fee than we can now, even with him in his final contract year. And in addition we'll have less loyalty bonus to pay Benty this time next season.
In addition, for at least a year, we won't see Bent scoring against us either.

[Toronto Villa]

where are we with Bents transfer/loan, as he actually signed for anyone yet ?

there's a pic of him stretching a white shirt on the Fulham OS. Good luck to him. Not too much though mind you.

[eamonn]

Be interesting to hear what he says about us in his interviews after signing.
 
He's been quite diplomatic in practically everything he's said to the press in the past that I can remember and not just regarding stuff with us that might have pissed him off - the situation with Lambert or Downing and Young being sold six months after he joined. Don't think he ever bleated over Redknapp's quip about Sandra being able to bury that chance he missed for Spurs either.

[Ian.]

The best thing about the loan is that he won't be scoring against us.
covering the wages and get a laon fee seems like a good way to get his salary off the books.

Now, anyone for that scrote Ireland?

Unless King Kenny gets another job I fear we are stuck with him.

You would thin Ireland is in breach of contract. We should be able to tear it up and get rid of him, after all he was signed to play football.

[sirlordbaltimore]

Good luck Darren, try not to score too many goals and send us down

[Dave]

Good luck Darren, try not to score too many goals and send us down

Well, he can't play against us so unless you're suggesting that the final relegation place will be between us and Fulham I struggle to see the above could possibly happen.

As far as I'm concerned he can score as many goals as he wants. The more the better.

[adrenachrome]

Good luck Darren, try not to score too many goals and send us down

Well, he can't play against us so unless you're suggesting that the final relegation place will be between us and Fulham I struggle to see the above could possibly happen.

As far as I'm concerned he can score as many goals as he wants. The more the better.

So much is clear.

[Ian.]

Good luck Darren, try not to score too many goals and send us down

Well, he can't play against us so unless you're suggesting that the final relegation place will be between us and Fulham I struggle to see the above could possibly happen.

As far as I'm concerned he can score as many goals as he wants. The more the better.

I'd even be happy if he'd pipped Benteke to the Golden Boot. Good luck to him, we can not lose from this deal.
His game does not suit us but hopefully Jol will get the best out of him cause he seems a very decent professional.