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Offline not3bad

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Re: Stiliyan Petrov announces his retirement from football (Reply #132)
« Reply #270 on: May 10, 2013, 02:42:41 PM »
Judging Petrov solely on his performances in a Villa shirt, surely he would rank a disappointment largely?

Really poor for the first couple of seasons under MON.

Poor the first season, certainly not the second.

He was superb on his debut and then dropped off for about 18 months.

He didn't even play for most of the first half of 07/08.  MON did the rare thing of dropping one of his "favourites".  When he returned he was much improved.

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Re: Stiliyan Petrov announces his retirement from football (Reply #132)
« Reply #271 on: May 10, 2013, 04:01:32 PM »
For me, it's a no to retiring the squad number, it's all a bit Candle in the Wind 1997.

I think West Ham retired the number six in honour of Bobby Moore so we wouldn't be creating a precedent or starting a trend were we to do so.

I tend to agree. City did it for Marc-Vivien Foe as well didn't they? But the difference is he died!! Stan has recovered and will hopefully remain involved in the club, so need to memorialise him.

He's in recovery but that not the same as saying he's recovered. Sorry to be pedantic but I think it's important to understand he's got a way to go before he can be classed as cured. Having said that, I agree that retiring the shirt isn't the way to go, although whether anyone would want the responsibility of wearing the number is another matter.

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Re: Stiliyan Petrov announces his retirement from football (Reply #132)
« Reply #272 on: May 10, 2013, 04:07:13 PM »
Its quite poigniant that this is the 19th page that I'm posting on.
I dont think we should retire the shirt number and I dont think Stan would want it either.

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Re: Stiliyan Petrov announces his retirement from football (Reply #132)
« Reply #273 on: May 10, 2013, 04:20:46 PM »
Stan has a long road ahead before he's recovered, so in the first instance that should be his only focus. Hopefully one day he can come back to the club in some capacity if he wants to do that.

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Re: Stiliyan Petrov announces his retirement from football (Reply #132)
« Reply #274 on: May 10, 2013, 04:26:03 PM »
Villa don't necessarily need to officially retire the number as such, but it has a significance now that would mean any new or existing squad member wouldn't ask for the shirt for a while yet I wouldn't have thought.

Gutted I can't make it as I'd like to say my thanks at the end.

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Re: Stiliyan Petrov announces his retirement from football (Reply #132)
« Reply #275 on: May 10, 2013, 04:30:21 PM »
As significant as it's been, it's only a number. I think Petrov in particular, wouldn't want the 19 to be removed.

I'd think he would be delighted to see the shirt given to an upcoming talent in the midfield.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2013, 04:32:27 PM by Pete3206 »

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Re: Stiliyan Petrov announces his retirement from football (Reply #132)
« Reply #276 on: May 10, 2013, 04:37:34 PM »
Judging Petrov solely on his performances in a Villa shirt, surely he would rank a disappointment largely?

Really poor for the first couple of seasons under MON. Eventually when we started playing 3 in midfield he improved a lot but probably his best season was the messy one under MHM while he was probably our best player with McLeish.

This is undermined entirely by the fact that he won both the players' and fans' Player Of The Year awards in 08/09.

He was a superb player for us, and this was realised by most long before his unfortunate illness.

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Re: Stiliyan Petrov announces his retirement from football (Reply #132)
« Reply #277 on: May 10, 2013, 04:55:09 PM »
applause for this being the 19th page

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Re: Stiliyan Petrov announces his retirement from football (Reply #132)
« Reply #278 on: May 10, 2013, 04:58:44 PM »
Judging Petrov solely on his performances in a Villa shirt, surely he would rank a disappointment largely?

Really poor for the first couple of seasons under MON. Eventually when we started playing 3 in midfield he improved a lot but probably his best season was the messy one under MHM while he was probably our best player with McLeish.

This is undermined entirely by the fact that he won both the players' and fans' Player Of The Year awards in 08/09.

He was a superb player for us, and this was realised by most long before his unfortunate illness.
Yep. As mentioned, when he forced his way back in the side at the tail end of the 07-08 season, he really started looking the part. From the next season on he was one of our most consistent players. Hugely missed last season when he became ill. Combined with Bent and Dunne being out, we just fell apart.

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Re: Stiliyan Petrov announces his retirement from football (Reply #132)
« Reply #279 on: May 10, 2013, 05:50:37 PM »
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Players and managers from across the Barclays Premier League including Sir Alex Ferguson, Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard, Yaya Toure and Gareth Bale have put their names to a major campaign to raise funds for Birmingham based Cure Leukaemia, inspired by Aston Villa’s club captain, Stiliyan Petrov, who announced his retirement from football yesterday.

19 individual boards have been signed by every Premier League club over the 2012-13 season and are being be raffled off in a text-to-donate campaign that aims to raise a total of £100,000 to fund specialist nurses and drugs trials for leukaemia patients across the West Midlands. With Villa’s last home game of the season against Chelsea on Saturday 10 May, once signed, the set of 20 boards will be complete.

The campaign was launched after Stiliyan ‘Stan’ Petrov was diagnosed with acute leukaemia in March 2012.

Talking about the campaign, Stiliyan said: “The team at the Centre for Clinical Haematology at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital Birmingham have been with me in my battle against leukaemia for many months. I have personal experience of how important it is to have access to specialist nurses, clinicians, pioneering drugs and treatments. Without the help of Cure Leukaemia, all this would not be available for other patients with their own battles with this disease.

“What we’re trying to do is draw people’s awareness to this illness and do something practical by raising funds and helping to combat the disease. I’m delighted that the cause has been supported by my team-mates and my colleagues throughout the Premier League. It’s very touching and the amount of money we raise can make a real difference.”

James McLaughlin, Chief Executive of Cure Leukaemia, said: “We have been working closely with Aston Villa and visiting teams from the Barclays Premier League to create this highly unique opportunity to win millions of pounds of talent through the signature of every player from all 20 teams. To date there are 383 signatures and with Chelsea players due to sign on Saturday we will surpass 400. We hope all supporters across the country will take part and together we can raise vital funds to grow our network of specialist nurses which in turn will help save more lives. ”

To donate £5 to Cure Leukaemia’s Support Stan campaign and be in with the chance of winning every signature from all the 20 boards, text STAN19 to 70070

http://www.cureleukaemia.co.uk/events.php?story=77

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Re: Stiliyan Petrov announces his retirement from football (Reply #132)
« Reply #280 on: May 10, 2013, 06:07:36 PM »
Judging Petrov solely on his performances in a Villa shirt, surely he would rank a disappointment largely?

Really poor for the first couple of seasons under MON.

Poor the first season, certainly not the second.

He was superb on his debut and then dropped off for about 18 months.

He didn't even play for most of the first half of 07/08.  MON did the rare thing of dropping one of his "favourites".  When he returned he was much improved.

When MON brought him back into the team it was on the right side of midfield initially. He started looking an improved player there and became settled enough to move into the centre.

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Re: Stiliyan Petrov announces his retirement from football (Reply #132)
« Reply #281 on: May 10, 2013, 07:25:42 PM »
Lets hope that Styliian's appearance Saturday is the only cause for grown men crying at a Villa match this season.

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Re: Stiliyan Petrov announces his retirement from football (Reply #132)
« Reply #282 on: May 10, 2013, 09:17:14 PM »
Lets hope that Styliian's appearance Saturday is the only cause for grown men crying at a Villa match this season.

Innit.

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Re: Stiliyan Petrov announces his retirement from football (Reply #132)
« Reply #283 on: May 10, 2013, 09:58:06 PM »
I can understand the sentiment in retiring the number 19 shirt, my own preference would be to give it someone like Gary Gardner or Ashley Westwood. Imagine how much harder they'd try if they had Stan's shirt number.

All the best Stan, my lad who is only 7 is looking forward to waving to you tomorrow and wishing you all the best. 
« Last Edit: May 10, 2013, 10:01:03 PM by PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt »

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Re: Stiliyan Petrov announces his retirement from football (Reply #132)
« Reply #284 on: May 10, 2013, 10:17:03 PM »
I emailed Paul Faulkner suggesting that Stan should lead the team out prior to the game and that the game should come to a halt for the 19th minute to allow players, staff and officials to join in the applause. I am sure that he won't mind me posting his response here.......

Thank you for your email.  In terms of Saturday, as I am sure you would expect, we have discussed long and hard with Stiliyan and ultimately the decision as to what he wanted to do, and felt comfortable doing, was left up to him.  We discussed the option of leading the team out, but being the true leader that he is, and a very selfless man, he didn’t want to overshadow the team or the game, and asked instead just to be with the squad and his team-mates for the lap after the game, a request we would obviously respect.  I’m sure it will be a very emotional moment when he does step back out onto the Villa Park pitch, and everyone in the stadium will let him know just exactly what he does mean to the entire Villa family.

 

Regards,

Paul



I'm disappointed that its been decided to combine Stan's appearance with the "lap of appreciation". As I mentioned earlier, I don't think that given the team's overall performance this season and the still precarious league position, that such a lap is merited.

However, due to Stan's participation, I'll be there applauding with everyone else.

The lap of appreciation is as much about the players saying thank you to us as the other way around. Irrespective of how some aspects of the season have gone they've done well these past few months to drag themselves away from the abyss. I don't think we should ignore that, and not once have I ever got the impression our players haven't cared. We're not QPR.

Having Stan join them are his wishes and for me it embodies the togetherness of the club. Something we could not have said in recent years past. In some respects Stan being there represents a passing of the torch to the next generation with the hope that he will still be with us and the team for many years to come in whatever capacity.

Think this is exactly the point. The players are showing their appreciation to the clubs fans, who have been superb this season IMHO. Having Stan to lead that is superb. I can understand the point of him leading the team out at the start of game, but the emotion of it all could affect some of the players and am sure this is the reason stan decided what he thought was the best time for fans to show their gratitude to him and vice versa. I sincerely hope he stays at the club in some capacity

 


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