Everton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Mortimer's Bear]

I'd prefer Upson to Custard Ron.

We could have done worse than bringing him in to play alongside Vlaar.

[Steve R]

There comes a point, and we have passed it, where it becomes self fulfilling. Teams rarely give up a game in this league but most chase a deficit with hope rather than conviction. Not against us, there is always a goal or two to be had. Simply by applying pressure. They don't even have to find something special from anywhere in particular.

I get the feeling that even if we had brought defenders in it would make little difference. Lambert just does not seem to be able to set a team up to defend. Most teams when they are in the lead seem to be able to ensure that the last minutes of a game tick by with the ball out of play more often than alive. Not us.

The one defeat was an absolute shocker, but our last 6 league away games have gone DWLDDD, it should have been a lot better, but even so that is not the form of a relegation team. At the end of it all, it's our home form that has pegged us back, not days like today.

Our greatest hope is the quality we have up front.

[not3bad]

The defence will be the reason we go down- 7 scored in the last 3 away games and not one win.

And not one loss or you want to ignore that?

Losing our home games though aren't we?

[Rip Van We Go Again]

It's all so unbalanced.
I honestly believe our forward line is one of the best in the division Benteke, Bent, Weimann, Gabby and N'Zogbia.
But the midfield is sub-standard at best and the defence is farcical.

[SamTheMouse]

I think we're going down. I really do. My reasoning being thusly: we're producing just enough promising play to keep the chairman, manager, players, etc - hopeful. Rather than being so unutterably, indisputably shite that we can be compared to Ipswich in the 90s, the powers that be are bumbling along in a kind of trance because of Benteke and the vaguely promising youngsters.

I liken it to a frog that's been dumped in a pan of cold water, and the heat is gradually being turned up. We're gonna get fucking boiled, and we won't even put up a fight.

[mattjpa]

Good point.. Same old over reactions.

Have you noticed that we're deeper and deeper in relegation trouble with every passing game?

Are you stupid mate? Over reactions. This weekend sees the opening of the chasym between the bottom 3 and the rest. Open your eyes - do you see us getting out of this?!?

[Legion]

It's all so unbalanced.
I honestly believe our forward line is one of the best in the division Benteke, Bent, Weimann, Gabby and N'Zogbia.
But the midfield is sub-standard at best and the defence is farcical.

Same for me.

[ciggiesnbeer]

I am happy with a point from Everton. Good job lads.

[Legion]

I am happy with a point from Everton. Good job lads.

Before kick-off I'd have bitten my own arm off for that. But at 1-3 up, I'd have expected better.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

A point at Everton is ALWAYS good, but you have to look at it in the context of being two goals to the good and then pissing it away, like at Albion.

[eastie]

Good point.. Same old over reactions.

Have you noticed that we're deeper and deeper in relegation trouble with every passing game?

Are you stupid mate? Over reactions. This weekend sees the opening of the chasym between the bottom 3 and the rest. Open your eyes - do you see us getting out of this?!?

Three points out of 24 is no over reaction- other are picking up results we cant buy a win.

[PeterWithesShin]

Can we have less of the insults please. This includes calling people stupid just because they have a different opinion.

[MonsXI]

Well another weekend ruined then...absolutely comical! Vlaar marks Fellaini all game then forgets to in injury time. Clark should never play at CB again! Kept making the same mistakes all game and so f**king lightweight. Baker ahead of him from now on, just for pure physicality. Bennett shouldn't play again full stop! KEA and Westwood offer nothing in midfield. Hard to comment on Sylla really. Didn't seem to do anything wrong. Skinnier then I thought though. N'Zogbia isn't effective out wide and Lambert should move him back to the central free role. Benteke brilliant. No excuses for giving up a two goal lead and I'm still convinced we are going down with Lambert in charge.

Did CNZ play out wide?

Yes it was 4-4-2. He drifts inside sometimes but just isn't effective playing wide.

We didnt play 442. It was somewhere between a 4-4-1-1 and 4-2-3-1 with CNZ in behind Benteke.

[MonsXI]

Can we have less of the insults please. This includes calling people stupid just because they have a different opinion.

I'm very stupid

[mattjpa]

I am happy with a point from Everton. Good job lads.

Before kick-off I'd have bitten my own arm off for that. But at 1-3 up, I'd have expected better.

I am happy with a point from Everton. Good job lads.
It's not good fucking job in the slightest - we were 3-1 up. Single fucking points will not keep us up. If we cannot hold what we have we are down

Before kick-off I'd have bitten my own arm off for that. But at 1-3 up, I'd have expected better.

Good point.. Same old over reactions.

Have you noticed that we're deeper and deeper in relegation trouble with every passing game?

Are you stupid mate? Over reactions. This weekend sees the opening of the chasym between the bottom 3 and the rest. Open your eyes - do you see us getting out of this?!?

Three points out of 24 is no over reaction- other are picking up results we cant buy a win.