Have the club accepted relegation?

[saltleylion]

I agree completely that we need to still back the team BUT us doing nothing at all is mirroring the clubs behaviour. I would never protest in the ground unless every alternative had been exhausted but we defientely need a way to show Lerner/Faulkner that this isnt acceptable.

So, what is that way? There hasn't been a single suggestion that doesn't involve not backing the club in some way.

I'd guess the obvious way is to not renew your ST in the summer, which is what I imagine a lot of people do.

In the meantime, get behind them.

I agree completely that we need to still back the team BUT us doing nothing at all is mirroring the clubs behaviour. I would never protest in the ground unless every alternative had been exhausted but we defientely need a way to show Lerner/Faulkner that this isnt acceptable.

So, what is that way? There hasn't been a single suggestion that doesn't involve not backing the club in some way.

I'd guess the obvious way is to not renew your ST in the summer, which is what I imagine a lot of people do.

In the meantime, get behind them.

Bang on. 
We need to support the team and get behind them as much as possible, be that 12th man, especially at home. Villa Park needs to become the fortress it once was and we can do our part and hopefully so will the players.
We aren't relegated yet, and it is still within our power to not get relegated, but i think it's going to be a hard struggle, and a close run thing.

Not renewing season tickets next year, relegated or not, and picking matches is a fair idea, it would send a big message out to Randy etc, that the fans just aren't going to put up with this any longer. I just don't know what kind of a protest / action this season would send the right message.
However, rose tinted glasses coming on, all this might be a moot point come June.

It's not over until the fat lady sings, even if she is warming up in the wings. VTWD.

 

[neo_Villan]

So, what is that way? There hasn't been a single suggestion that doesn't involve not backing the club in some way.

I'd guess the obvious way is to not renew your ST in the summer, which is what I imagine a lot of people do.

In the meantime, get behind them.

The thing is, just staying away from VP doesn't really tell the club much. Are people staying away because of Lerner, Lambert, ticket prices, just due to results, style of football, the temperature of the pies?

What is does tell the club though is that less bums on seats = less £££s in their pockets.

[MonsXI]

So, what is that way? There hasn't been a single suggestion that doesn't involve not backing the club in some way.

I'd guess the obvious way is to not renew your ST in the summer, which is what I imagine a lot of people do.

In the meantime, get behind them.

The thing is, just staying away from VP doesn't really tell the club much. Are people staying away because of Lerner, Lambert, ticket prices, just due to results, style of football, the temperature of the pies?

What is does tell the club though is that less bums on seats = less £££s in their pockets.

and then Lerner downsizes us even more and we play Walsall and Coventry in Lge one

[PeterWithesShin]

Thing is it's a catch 22. People boycott the club and/or stop spending at catering, club shop and so on, and it's even less likely we'll have money to spend to get out the mess we're in.

[bertlambshank]

For the comments about overreaction, at exactly what stage is it ok to react? I think once the manager is saying 'we're not spending money avoiding relegation, in case it doesn't work' when you're 4th bottom in the league. That is the right time to get fucking pissed off and depressed with the running of the club.

massive overeaction,
 evidently we are going to do a Sheff Wednesday if we dont buy this window.

We could well that yes.

[bertlambshank]

Paul Faulkner 14th May 2012.
"I suppose a disaster would have been getting relegated but this was too close for comfort," Faulkner told BBC Radio Five Live.

[jonzy85]

I understand the depression and anger, but I don't understand why so much of it is directed at Lambert for this.

He may not be covering himself in glory with the way he is getting the team playing, but in that interview he is just being honest about where the club is now. That's not his fault. The rot set in long before he got here.

I think it is an absolute disgrace that Lerner and Faulkner cower away from the media, leaving Lambert to hang out to dry like that, fielding questions on the club's finances.

As fans we undoubtedly deserve better, but I think Lambert deserve's better too.

[bertlambshank]

I know I have posted this before,but this is when the penny should of dropped for us all.And note the date 14th March 2012.
“We’re seeing some very talented young players in the reserve team who will also play a part next year.
Paul Faulkner.
Maybe this is why we never hear from the club.

[eastie]

I understand the depression and anger, but I don't understand why so much of it is directed at Lambert for this.

He may not be covering himself in glory with the way he is getting the team playing, but in that interview he is just being honest about where the club is now. That's not his fault. The rot set in long before he got here.

I think it is an absolute disgrace that Lerner and Faulkner cower away from the media, leaving Lambert to hang out to dry like that, fielding questions on the club's finances.

As fans we undoubtedly deserve better, but I think Lambert deserve's better too.

Lerner faulkner lambert - all to blame !

[jonzy85]

I understand the depression and anger, but I don't understand why so much of it is directed at Lambert for this.

He may not be covering himself in glory with the way he is getting the team playing, but in that interview he is just being honest about where the club is now. That's not his fault. The rot set in long before he got here.

I think it is an absolute disgrace that Lerner and Faulkner cower away from the media, leaving Lambert to hang out to dry like that, fielding questions on the club's finances.

As fans we undoubtedly deserve better, but I think Lambert deserve's better too.

Lerner faulkner lambert - all to blame !

How is Lambert to blame that there isn't the proverbial pot to piss in?

[eastie]

I understand the depression and anger, but I don't understand why so much of it is directed at Lambert for this.

He may not be covering himself in glory with the way he is getting the team playing, but in that interview he is just being honest about where the club is now. That's not his fault. The rot set in long before he got here.

I think it is an absolute disgrace that Lerner and Faulkner cower away from the media, leaving Lambert to hang out to dry like that, fielding questions on the club's finances.

As fans we undoubtedly deserve better, but I think Lambert deserve's better too.

Lerner faulkner lambert - all to blame !

How is Lambert to blame that there isn't the proverbial pot to piss in?

Hes had £22m ! Tactics, team selections, formations , substitutions , failure to get players to perform, lack of motivation, no team spirit  - take your pick.

[Apyadg]

I understand the depression and anger, but I don't understand why so much of it is directed at Lambert for this.

He may not be covering himself in glory with the way he is getting the team playing, but in that interview he is just being honest about where the club is now. That's not his fault. The rot set in long before he got here.

I think it is an absolute disgrace that Lerner and Faulkner cower away from the media, leaving Lambert to hang out to dry like that, fielding questions on the club's finances.

As fans we undoubtedly deserve better, but I think Lambert deserve's better too.

Lerner faulkner lambert - all to blame !

How is Lambert to blame that there isn't the proverbial pot to piss in?

I don't care how much his hands have been tied, he should have been able to motivate this squad to beat division 4 Bradford Bastard City over 3 hours of football.

As much as Lerner should take most of the blame for the current situation of this club, Lambert is still a bit shit.

[jonzy85]

I understand the depression and anger, but I don't understand why so much of it is directed at Lambert for this.

He may not be covering himself in glory with the way he is getting the team playing, but in that interview he is just being honest about where the club is now. That's not his fault. The rot set in long before he got here.

I think it is an absolute disgrace that Lerner and Faulkner cower away from the media, leaving Lambert to hang out to dry like that, fielding questions on the club's finances.

As fans we undoubtedly deserve better, but I think Lambert deserve's better too.

Lerner faulkner lambert - all to blame !

How is Lambert to blame that there isn't the proverbial pot to piss in?

Hes had £22m ! Tactics, team selections, formations , substitutions , failure to get players to perform, lack of motivation, no team spirit  - take your pick.

I was referring purely to the interview at the start of this thread...there is plenty of other threads discussing everything else that has gone wrong.

Blaming Lambert for not being able to sign any players is just shooting the messenger.

£22m was spent on 7 players. That's an average of £3 million a player. I imagine the max wages any of those players is on is fairly low as well. You can't expect to buy players at that price and for them all to come in ready to compete in the PL. But that is what Lambert was asked to do. You might say he should have used the money to buy 3,4,5 players, but having brought 7 in, we realise it still isn't enough. Especially, when you consider that the majority of his signings have done quite well and played most of the games.

[garyellis]

jonzy85 completely on the money. We all know the manager has made mistakes but it is the here and now that matters. Teams around us are doing something about it. If we are not going to protect our Premiership status due to the financial state of the club that is for the CEO to explain. Keep the pressure on him let's have some answers.

[AvFc4eVeR]

I agree completely that we need to still back the team BUT us doing nothing at all is mirroring the clubs behaviour. I would never protest in the ground unless every alternative had been exhausted but we defientely need a way to show Lerner/Faulkner that this isnt acceptable.

So, what is that way? There hasn't been a single suggestion that doesn't involve not backing the club in some way.

I'd guess the obvious way is to not renew your ST in the summer, which is what I imagine a lot of people do.

In the meantime, get behind them.

Can we not get behind the lads on the pitch for 95mins, but protest after outside as we have seen many times before for a lot less!