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Online PaulWinch again

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Re: Martin Laursen on the Villa
« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2013, 11:38:01 AM »
There's absolutely zero evidence from a management perspective to suggest he would make it as a manager of us or any other club.  See Henning Berg at Blackburn. 

Nope but who knows he might, and I'd hope that if he proved to be good that Villa would be an option for him in the future. I don't think anyone is suggesting he should be manager now. It's just a nice future idea amongst the horrendous gloom that has enveloped this club for the last couple of years.

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Re: Martin Laursen on the Villa
« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2013, 11:39:48 AM »
Didn't Pep Guardiola step straight into the Barcelona job after retiring as a player?

EDIT:  Just checked and he had one year with their B Team first.

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Re: Martin Laursen on the Villa
« Reply #47 on: January 17, 2013, 11:50:46 AM »
There's absolutely zero evidence from a management perspective to suggest he would make it as a manager of us or any other club.   

There's not much evidence of Paul Lambert turning things round either.

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Re: Martin Laursen on the Villa
« Reply #48 on: January 17, 2013, 11:50:53 AM »
Just because we love him and he was a good (but very injury prone player) doesn't mean he would be any better than Lambert, or McLeish.

I used to think that, and was wary of giving an old hero a job out of loyalty.  But not better than Lambert?  There are people in Amazonian rainforests who have had no contact with the modern world who would organise us better than him.

You know, sometimes I think you actually believe the hyperbole that you come out with.

I realise there's probably no room for levity in your life, but seriously, lighten up.  I don't think anybody seriously wants to hump Martin Laursen (well, they might, who knows), it's called using a literary device to make a point.

Well I suppose it's an overused device then, you seem to use it often enough.

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Re: Martin Laursen on the Villa
« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2013, 12:06:47 PM »
It's no different to you gamely sticking to your faux positivity approach Drummond, despite the lack of any evidence whatsoever to support your view.

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Re: Martin Laursen on the Villa
« Reply #50 on: January 17, 2013, 12:13:21 PM »
There's absolutely zero evidence from a management perspective to suggest he would make it as a manager of us or any other club.   

There's not much evidence of Paul Lambert turning things round either.
Agreed.I'd trust Gary Megson to do a better job than Lambert at the moment

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Re: Martin Laursen on the Villa
« Reply #51 on: January 17, 2013, 12:42:50 PM »
There's absolutely zero evidence from a management perspective to suggest he would make it as a manager of us or any other club.   

There's not much evidence of Paul Lambert turning things round either.

Oh yeh I would agree with that - just saying it isn't necessarily the case that by simply having wonderful memories of a player translates into a great manager.  Two entirely different skillsets are required.  I think that if we lose to Bradford, PL will be gone with Sid put in temporary charge until the end of the season - the owners would see that as a way of appeasing the fans, but that would be awful too.

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Re: Martin Laursen on the Villa
« Reply #52 on: January 17, 2013, 12:43:06 PM »
There's absolutely zero evidence from a management perspective to suggest he would make it as a manager of us or any other club.   

There's not much evidence of Paul Lambert turning things round either.
Agreed.I'd trust Gary Megson to do a better job than Lambert at the moment

Based on Faulkwits record in recruiting managers you may get your wish. Just have to wait until May

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: Martin Laursen on the Villa
« Reply #53 on: January 17, 2013, 12:47:21 PM »
I'd trust Alex McLeish more right now.

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Re: Martin Laursen on the Villa
« Reply #54 on: January 17, 2013, 12:58:25 PM »
I'd trust Alex McLeish more right now.
Yes,there was us thinking he wasn't getting enough out of the team,when in fact it was because the team was utterly shit and he knew it especially when all the injuries kicked in

He wasn't backed in the January transfer window either.Wasn't it just Robbie Keane on loan for 6 weeks.Disgraceful when you look back
« Last Edit: January 17, 2013, 01:01:22 PM by VillaAlways »

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Re: Martin Laursen on the Villa
« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2013, 01:20:21 PM »
It's no different to you gamely sticking to your faux positivity approach Drummond, despite the lack of any evidence whatsoever to support your view.

I'd still stick with Lambert as would 3/4 of people that have expressed a view since our last shit defeat.

I believe we had started to improve before further injuries took out important players (including our captain, who has been widely reported as being a good leader).

I'm not sure how anyone can think negatively of Paul Lambert so quickly, given that he has been successful for a number of years. McLeish was a negative manager playing a negative and soul destroying way.

Lambert has done probably as well as anyone could in the circumstances, I'd say his transfer record, El Ahmadi aside, is good. Yes, Bennett isn't a Premier League standard yet but he's playing around players who are just as inexperienced.

Laursen is saying some good things but others calling for him to be offered a job doesn't make much sense, he can lead on the pitch but we've no idea of his coaching ability.

I'm trying to see positives. You appear to refuse to consider that there may be any. I will accept the current playing squad aren't good enough as a team, but I don't believe it's Lambert's fault.

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Re: Martin Laursen on the Villa
« Reply #56 on: January 17, 2013, 01:29:41 PM »
I believe it's partly Lamberts fault as he didn't buy enough experience in the Summer which we were all concerned about the time.It was clear to everybody that the team needed a couple of experienced heads and Lambert chose to ignore that and didn't even spend all the money that was available to him

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Re: Martin Laursen on the Villa
« Reply #57 on: January 17, 2013, 01:31:03 PM »
Mcleish was still a negative useless manager, let's not get revisionist here.

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Re: Martin Laursen on the Villa
« Reply #58 on: January 17, 2013, 01:35:40 PM »
I believe it's partly Lamberts fault as he didn't buy enough experience in the Summer which we were all concerned about the time.It was clear to everybody that the team needed a couple of experienced heads and Lambert chose to ignore that and didn't even spend all the money that was available to him

Did he ignore it or was his brief on joining to develop youth and bring in young hungry players. Dont recall much outcry on here about his summer signings at the time.

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Re: Martin Laursen on the Villa
« Reply #59 on: January 17, 2013, 01:46:12 PM »
I believe it's partly Lamberts fault as he didn't buy enough experience in the Summer which we were all concerned about the time.It was clear to everybody that the team needed a couple of experienced heads and Lambert chose to ignore that and didn't even spend all the money that was available to him

Did he ignore it or was his brief on joining to develop youth and bring in young hungry players. Dont recall much outcry on here about his summer signings at the time.
Maybe,but I believe it's PL's mantra also,which you can achieve and indeed he did when building from League One but not with an established Premier league club.The fact that we didn't sign any British players above league one is unbelievable and incredibly naive.

 


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