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Offline mr woo

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #270 on: March 14, 2013, 02:41:02 PM »
Dunne, Baker, Clark. In that order.

If Dunnes off......Dunnes replacement to partner Vlaar.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #271 on: March 14, 2013, 02:42:08 PM »
I'm guessing that Porous Ron will always be first choice, but who would you prefer to partner him.

Clark or Baker?

Baker for me.

So who, in Rainman style, is playing LB?


Joe Bennett.  I think he's better than a lot of other people do.


He's another one who hopefully will get better in time. His sending off set him back a bit in terms of confidence. He was horrendous up at Bradford (he was'nt the only one), though no doubt he'll learn from it.

Offline neo_Villan

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #272 on: March 14, 2013, 03:04:05 PM »
I'm guessing that Porous Ron will always be first choice, but who would you prefer to partner him.

Clark or Baker?
Ideally it would be Baker for me. As someone above said, Clark and Vlaar are too similar and don't complement each other. Problem though is that Baker going to CB right now would bring up the whole LB dilemma again. Bennett has been better since the turn of the year in all fairness but he still doesn't inspire much confidence. Lichaj used to be pretty solid but had a crazy period where he became a complete liability. Not sure what has happened to Stevens who I have never minded really. I think we should stick with the current back 4 until the end of the season TBH, just for the consistancy if nothing else. But for next season the Vlaar/Clark partnership should be disbanded. In fact, I'd have no problem with Clark being sold given that PL is clearly to stubbon to play him in midfield which he is more suited to at this level.

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #273 on: March 15, 2013, 06:44:14 AM »
If Clark had scored that own goal last week he'd have come in for a lot more criticism than baker

Mind you, I am starting to have real doubts about his consistency and quality.

I think Bennett could become decent. But he needs to improve his defending A LOT. Ideally these players would be coming in for games here and there to replace proven premier league players. Lowton has had a dip in form but has been a good signing overall. He could do with a few games out the side. But not when the alternatives are lichaj and herd

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #274 on: March 15, 2013, 07:57:15 AM »
It's Baker's distribution that is poor, for me. He's a good stopper but does the modern game need more than that of a Premiership CB?
Vlaar has beeen fallible this season but he does seem to bring some calm and coolness to the defence that we've lacked in his absence.

It's a position that has to be strengthened over the summer.

Offline peter w

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #275 on: March 15, 2013, 10:28:40 PM »
A midflied 3 of Clark, Sylla, and Westwood wouldn't be too bad. Putting baker at centre-half and keeping the height at set-pieces.

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #276 on: March 15, 2013, 10:34:39 PM »
Not that much creativety in that midfield three though is there Peter W?

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #277 on: March 15, 2013, 10:35:29 PM »
I prefer Clark and Vlaar at centre half, because the way for us to succeed is to retain possession and Baker's distribution is so poor it often puts us under pressure. We desperately need a quality experienced centre half in the summer.

Offline peter w

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #278 on: March 15, 2013, 10:53:43 PM »
Not that much creativety in that midfield three though is there Peter W?

Sylla or Clark carrying the ball forward, and you've got n'Zog in front of them if we set up the way we have been recently.

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #279 on: March 15, 2013, 11:10:33 PM »
Not that much creativety in that midfield three though is there Peter W?

Sylla or Clark carrying the ball forward, and you've got n'Zog in front of them if we set up the way we have been recently.

And who up front then? Would be hard on Gabby or Weimann imo

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #280 on: March 15, 2013, 11:17:46 PM »
Neither Clark or Baker are good enough IMO. Clark's atrocious positional sense is matched only by Baker's passing. If we survive I would hope that we would upgrade both of these two.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #281 on: March 15, 2013, 11:21:38 PM »
As I've said Vlaar is a decent enough Premier League centre half. I don't know on Clark or Baker, but they both have massive issues with their game. We need at least one quality centre half in the summer. I actually think Bennett might improve a lot and be ok, but we need full competition as well.

Offline peter w

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #282 on: March 15, 2013, 11:25:17 PM »
Not that much creativety in that midfield three though is there Peter W?

Sylla or Clark carrying the ball forward, and you've got n'Zog in front of them if we set up the way we have been recently.

And who up front then? Would be hard on Gabby or Weimann imo

Both wide with Benteke up front. i'm starting with 12.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #283 on: March 16, 2013, 12:12:31 AM »
Dunne, Baker, Clark. In that order.

If Dunnes off......Dunnes replacement to partner Vlaar.

Apparently Man City have put a £4m price on Lescott. Now that would make us a lot more solid in the middle.

Offline tomd2103

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #284 on: March 16, 2013, 12:23:32 AM »
It's Baker's distribution that is poor, for me. He's a good stopper but does the modern game need more than that of a Premiership CB?

His positional sense is poor as well.  That might come with age, but the fact he often gets caught out of position is reflected in the number of last ditch sliding tackles he has to make.  We definitely need to bring in a first choice CB in the summer to partner Vlaar.

 


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