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Author Topic: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again  (Read 124474 times)

Offline bradsbaldhead

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #450 on: June 30, 2013, 01:48:22 PM »
I keep saying that Bannan's problem is he is one paced, and his one pace is very slow.  You need a change  of pace to close players down quickly, or skip away from them with the ball.  Some small players like Silva are light on their feet and seem to just float and dart around the park.  Bannan plods around like a christmas pudding by comparison.   

Very much agree. He had so much potential but he seems to have stayed at the same level for the past three seasons. In fact when he was first coming through he was far more dynamic as he was playing as a winger, but the move into the middle seems to have taken all that flair and momentum out of his sails. It's just hollywood ball after hollywood ball now, followed by several sideways passes.

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #451 on: June 30, 2013, 02:19:17 PM »
The hollywood thing is a myth too as he doesn't try it as often as some think. The problem is that we all know he can do it but he hasn't been able to duplicate that pass at Fulham. What kills him is other parts of his game where he should have improved and hasn't. That's what drives people nuts e.g utterly bollocks set pieces especially when he insists on taking them all.

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #452 on: June 30, 2013, 02:24:06 PM »
He'll never be half as good as he thinks he is. I actually don't see him as a prem player at all.

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #453 on: June 30, 2013, 03:12:49 PM »
I must have seen Bannan play 40 times and have read loads about him in debating forums and talked about him with fellow villa fans. Have to say I'm none the wiser, he's an enigma.

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #454 on: June 30, 2013, 10:59:11 PM »
I just got sick of those long floated corners that were a certainty when he was on the pitch.

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #455 on: July 01, 2013, 01:23:12 AM »
The hollywood thing is a myth too as he doesn't try it as often as some think. The problem is that we all know he can do it but he hasn't been able to duplicate that pass at Fulham. What kills him is other parts of his game where he should have improved and hasn't. That's what drives people nuts e.g utterly bollocks set pieces especially when he insists on taking them all.

I would think that the manager and not BB has a large say in who takes the set pieces to be honest.

Offline BegbieAV

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #456 on: July 01, 2013, 10:54:25 PM »
Bye Bye Barry u won't be missed

Offline Matt C

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #457 on: July 02, 2013, 02:05:27 AM »
Might still make it but won't be at Villa. Needs a move, fear its the same for Fonz

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #458 on: July 02, 2013, 09:04:32 AM »
I keep saying that Bannan's problem is he is one paced, and his one pace is very slow.  You need a change  of pace to close players down quickly, or skip away from them with the ball.  Some small players like Silva are light on their feet and seem to just float and dart around the park.  Bannan plods around like a christmas pudding by comparison.   
It's just hollywood ball after hollywood ball now

No it is'nt, it really is'nt.

As for Toronto's point about his set pieces, i'd agree with that. Mind you, even when he's not in the side, the set pieces are still not great. Westie's corners are better than Bannan's but they still tend to be floaty and slow.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2013, 09:08:42 AM by Clampy »

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #459 on: July 02, 2013, 09:39:21 AM »
The Reading and Sunderland ones we scored from were floaty and slow (I realise Westwood took them). I think the idea is that if we put them about level with the Holte End balcony wall only Benteke can reach them.

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #460 on: July 02, 2013, 10:49:26 AM »
Rumours coming from Leicester end .

Interested in wee Barry

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #461 on: July 02, 2013, 11:06:18 AM »
Rumours coming from Leicester end .

Interested in wee Barry

Would suit him. Not too far to go. A club always with the potential to get promoted, so he could be back in the Prem in a year or two.

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #462 on: July 02, 2013, 11:08:51 AM »
The Reading and Sunderland ones we scored from were floaty and slow (I realise Westwood took them). I think the idea is that if we put them about level with the Holte End balcony wall only Benteke can reach them.

Our set pieces altogether are piss poor to be honest. We've got no one who can deliver consistent quality. Not since Barry and Young left. Even Young's delivery became erratic in his last couple of years.

What annoys me in the case of Bannan though, is the fact he's supposed to have a wand of a left foot. He probably believes himself he's got a wand of a left foot, but the delivery from corners and frees is mostly poor from him.


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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #463 on: July 02, 2013, 11:47:22 AM »
For corners 'floaty' tends to be the default if you've not got someone who will make themselves a target as you tend to just hang them in and hope someone gets up high.  If you fizz them across and no one really goes for it the ball goes straight out the other side and you look a mug.

Young is a perfect example.  When Laursen was around (and Cahill to an extent) he drilled corners, but after they'd gone his corners just got more floated because no one was dominating the box.  That same issue has just continued because we've still not got a genuine replacement for Laursen at corners.

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #464 on: July 02, 2013, 01:21:19 PM »
Sad to say like so many youngsters at pro clubs - the promise never materialises and only the very best go on to be a recognised, regular premiership star
I suppose the first taste of big money and it must be very difficult to remain focussed and hungry to keep on pushing yourself

 


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