Barry "Messi" Bannan - again

[JUAN PABLO]

Bannan might well not be good enough, he might well need to leave VP and start again, and if you dont rate him thats fair enough every one has the right to an opinion

what i just cant understand is the people around me last night and at other games as well were just abusing him for everything he did, even when he passed the ball to a Villa player it was the wrong option,
he could do no right, it was a semi final and we were giving our own player the same sort of shit i have seen handed out to Trevor Francis in the past, its pathetic

and i didnt think he played well last night even in the first half when everyone else did play well, i thought he was poor,
 but the constant abuse is not going to help his game one bit, and all we are doing is abusing our own team, thats normaly the job for the away supporters

agree John, I would never abuse a Villa player .    Maybe a manager or a chairman     joking    but he is still championship at best for me . But lets hope he proves me wrong but he must have played a few games for Villa now .

[pauliewalnuts]

I think this thread is going down the wrong road by constant criticism of Bannan for everything that is going wrong at the moment at villa park, why blame a young lad when experienced pros are not performing any better. i.e. Ireland, Nzogbia, Agbonlahor,

Is the right answer.

Not really, because he's not getting criticised for everything that is wrong, just the stuff which is his fault, ie the shit corners.

The entire team are getting criticised at the moment, it's not just Bannan.

[Monty]

I think this thread is going down the wrong road by constant criticism of Bannan for everything that is going wrong at the moment at villa park, why blame a young lad when experienced pros are not performing any better. i.e. Ireland, Nzogbia, Agbonlahor,

Is the right answer.

Not really, because he's not getting criticised for everything that is wrong, just the stuff which is his fault, ie the shit corners.

The entire team are getting criticised at the moment, it's not just Bannan.

While it's true that the fair-minded are criticising him for the shit corners, there is a group of fans who will get on Bannan's back no matter what. Without naming names, there was an argument on here where one poster insisted that 'all he does is play hollywood balls to the opposition', and when confronted with statistics to the contrary still clung to his view. That's not really criticism, that's vitriol.

[pooligan]

Regarding Bannan and his shit corners, it amazes me how he has been allowed to keep taking them all season long. For me,another example of Lambert being clueless

[JUAN PABLO]

Regarding Bannan and his shit corners, it amazes me how he has been allowed to keep taking them all season long. For me,another example of Lambert being clueless

and allowing our defending of them

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I can accept that the criticism of Bannan is over the top due to shit we're in at the moment, but that said, I still don't think he's a good enough player for the Premier League.
I sincerley hope i'm 100% wrong.

[OzVilla]

Sorry to bring this up again but Bannan encapsulated last night why he's so frustrating.  He looks neat and composed on the ball without ever looking like delivering that killer pass, his crossing is floated up ala Stuart Gray with no pace on the ball and he just can't win a header or a tackle.

At one stage in the 2nd half he had space ahead to move into but decided to do some fancy fucking turn on the spot and ran straight back into Cabaye. 

I simply cannot believe, for his sake as much as anything, that we haven't looked for a replacement this window - he looks shot to bits. I feel a bit sorry for him and Westwood really as they get sent out week after week to do a job that neither is currently capable of (thanks to Stephen fucking Ireland and KEA).

[UK Redsox]

He beat Anita in the air on one occasion, totally harris'ed** the player off the ball


**[Danny Baker]"There's one for the teenagers"[/Danny Baker]

[AlexAlexCropley]

I'd have him in my team any day of the week.
Forest Falcons under 12s.

[OzVilla]

He beat Anita in the air on one occasion, totally harris'ed the player off the ball

Anita, that's the bloke they bought on 2nd half that looked about 13.

[saunders_heroes]

I think this thread is going down the wrong road by constant criticism of Bannan for everything that is going wrong at the moment at villa park, why blame a young lad when experienced pros are not performing any better. i.e. Ireland, Nzogbia, Agbonlahor,

Is the right answer.

Not really, because he's not getting criticised for everything that is wrong, just the stuff which is his fault, ie the shit corners.

The entire team are getting criticised at the moment, it's not just Bannan.

While it's true that the fair-minded are criticising him for the shit corners, there is a group of fans who will get on Bannan's back no matter what. Without naming names, there was an argument on here where one poster insisted that 'all he does is play hollywood balls to the opposition', and when confronted with statistics to the contrary still clung to his view. That's not really criticism, that's vitriol.

Using OPTA stats to back up an argument doesn't wash. Even I could pass sideways and backwards under no pressure in my own half and get away with it. He deserves all the grief he gets just for his diabolical set pieces alone. Some of us saw through the Bannan hype very early on, when others (naming no names of course) were still claiming him as the new Paul Scholes.

[Monty]

Using OPTA stats to back up an argument doesn't wash. Even I could pass sideways and backwards under no pressure in my own half and get away with it. He deserves all the grief he gets just for his diabolical set pieces alone. Some of us saw through the Bannan hype very early on, when others (naming no names of course) were still claiming him as the new Paul Scholes.

With all due respect I trust the cold accumulation of numbers above your apparently hellscape-tinted eyes.

He's actually a better passer and keeper of the ball in the opposition than in his own, where he looks frustrated and tries to do too much too soon. I thought was really, really poor yesterday, but in the first half how much of that was down to Lambert essentially throwing him and Westwood in a 2 v 5 situation with their midfield - just like at West Brom? He should also never be played in this holding role which seems designed to compound his weaknesses and make him frustrated. Put it this way - how do you think Wes Hoolahan or James Morrison would have done in that position yesterday?

[Rip Van We Go Again]

16 pages dedicated to the inept Oompa-Loompa.

[SamTheMouse]

I don't have anything against the lad, and from what I can see he tries his best and works quite hard. But sadly, he's too small and lacks the quality you need to be a Premier League midfielder.

[MoetVillan]

i have never seen a player with such movement.  Watch him get touch tight to a player when we have a throw in, yet get a good 15 metres away from any opposing player when they have a throw in.  Whoever taught him the basics needs a swift kick in the nads.  The fact that he is the choice over Ireland tells me more about Ireland than Bannan.