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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848092 times)

Online Mister E

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4095 on: February 26, 2013, 09:00:20 AM »

If we have no plan to try and compete then he should be actively looking to sell up to a party that has that ambition. That is what a good custodian would do.
How do we know he isn't? Although, as I've said before, it is folly to allow the assets to depreciate if you are looking to sell them to recover the £200m debt in the club.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4096 on: February 26, 2013, 09:12:40 AM »

If we have no plan to try and compete then he should be actively looking to sell up to a party that has that ambition. That is what a good custodian would do.
How do we know he isn't? Although, as I've said before, it is folly to allow the assets to depreciate if you are looking to sell them to recover the £200m debt in the club.
I think you have answered your own question, will be much easier to sell a PL club than a Championship one.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4097 on: February 26, 2013, 09:50:18 AM »
Where has all this talk of Lerner being broke come from?

He seems to me to have lost desire and interest if anything , having cashed in on the browns he is far from broke .
How much of that $1Bn from the Browns sale did he get to bank ??

It was recently revealed that Lerner's personal fortune has increased.  So he got a bit of it there.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4098 on: February 26, 2013, 12:30:33 PM »
Lerner is now a sterling billionaire.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4099 on: February 26, 2013, 12:34:21 PM »
Lerner is now a sterling billionaire.
So let the spending begin then. Don't hold your breath, you will die.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4100 on: February 26, 2013, 12:58:02 PM »
Lerner is now a sterling billionaire.
So let the spending begin then. Don't hold your breath, you will die.

Don't the FFP rules mean he can't just pump cash in though? What are the restrictions exactly?

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4101 on: February 26, 2013, 04:08:13 PM »
The bottom team next season according to collymore gets £60m so it makes the lack of signing of a defender last month even more ridiculous.

This has been common knowledge to everyone since the deal was signed last year.  How and why RL, Ginge and Lambo didn't feel the need to even slightly speculate on missing out on this sum of money defies belief.  To me it's dereliction of duty.  A pox on their house!

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4102 on: February 26, 2013, 05:44:32 PM »
Where has all this talk of Lerner being broke come from?

He seems to me to have lost desire and interest if anything , having cashed in on the browns he is far from broke .
How much of that $1Bn from the Browns sale did he get to bank ??

It was recently revealed that Lerner's personal fortune has increased.  So he got a bit of it there.

That would already have been included in his fortune as an asset.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4103 on: February 26, 2013, 06:16:51 PM »
I agree with Des and with what curious posted a couple of days ago namely that not to have signed a defender in the January window is the ultimate act of premeditated incompetence next to which any other decision ever to be made at Villa Park, like should we play in blue and white or  should we change the name of the club, pale into insignificance.   In January we had top flight status, in January we had the opportunity to buy security.   Lerner, Faulkner and Lambert chose not to.   Mistakes do not come any bigger than that.   

I texted Damon this morning and said something I never thought I would say and that is I have in retrospect a growing appreciation of TSM.   Yes he was a piss poor manager, yes, his football stank out every stadium he took a club in his charge but he was an honest man.  With TSM you knew what you were getting.   Lambert is an incompetent, stubborn, inflexible man who seeks to pass himself off as a modern, thinking, radical, innovative, original football manager but his time with us has shown him to be none of those things.   He is an impostor which we might be able to live with having lived with TSM but he is also Lerner's poodle.   He has been told that his job is safe when we go down and that is good enough for him.   All the shame and the pain relegation will heap on us means nothing to him so long as he is safe personally.

I can still see him on the touchline at Millwall when their winner went in, taking his hands out of his pockets for the first time, giving three or four feeble claps and putting them back in his pockets.   That was the most animated he had been all night.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2013, 06:21:52 PM by brian green »

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4104 on: February 26, 2013, 06:21:51 PM »
you dont like him then Brian ?

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4105 on: February 26, 2013, 06:28:41 PM »
I honestly think the job is too big for him.
I think he is at home at a small town club, where expectations are lower, but at a big city club he has been found wanting.
The things that sticks in my mind is how he said that paying as much as he did for Benteke 'frightened' him.
That is not the sign of man confident in his own decisions and able to live with the size of expectations upon him.
If, by a miracle we survive this year, I fear that his small time thinking will put us through this all over again next year.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4106 on: February 26, 2013, 06:31:23 PM »
I agree with Des and with what curious posted a couple of days ago namely that not to have signed a defender in the January window is the ultimate act of premeditated incompetence next to which any other decision ever to be made at Villa Park, like should we play in blue and white or  should we change the name of the club, pale into insignificance.   In January we had top flight status, in January we had the opportunity to buy security.   Lerner, Faulkner and Lambert chose not to.   Mistakes do not come any bigger than that.   

I texted Damon this morning and said something I never thought I would say and that is I have in retrospect a growing appreciation of TSM.   Yes he was a piss poor manager, yes, his football stank out every stadium he took a club in his charge but he was an honest man.  With TSM you knew what you were getting.   Lambert is an incompetent, stubborn, inflexible man who seeks to pass himself off as a modern, thinking, radical, innovative, original football manager but his time with us has shown him to be none of those things.   He is an impostor which we might be able to live with having lived with TSM but he is also Lerner's poodle.   He has been told that his job is safe when we go down and that is good enough for him.   All the shame and the pain relegation will heap on us means nothing to him so long as he is safe personally.

I can still see him on the touchline at Millwall when their winner went in, taking his hands out of his pockets for the first time, giving three or four feeble claps and putting them back in his pockets.   That was the most animated he had been all night.

I couldn't agree more. I felt like this when seeing him glibly sit and watch us get turned over at Bradford with the air of one who was in no way responsible for the farce unfolding before him.

The only thing that should save him is if he saves us. A man who has presided over the season that we are having with little effort to address the all too obvious problems only deserves to be shown the door.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4107 on: February 26, 2013, 06:48:53 PM »
I agree with Des and with what curious posted a couple of days ago namely that not to have signed a defender in the January window is the ultimate act of premeditated incompetence next to which any other decision ever to be made at Villa Park, like should we play in blue and white or  should we change the name of the club, pale into insignificance.   In January we had top flight status, in January we had the opportunity to buy security.   Lerner, Faulkner and Lambert chose not to.   Mistakes do not come any bigger than that.   

I texted Damon this morning and said something I never thought I would say and that is I have in retrospect a growing appreciation of TSM.   Yes he was a piss poor manager, yes, his football stank out every stadium he took a club in his charge but he was an honest man.  With TSM you knew what you were getting.   Lambert is an incompetent, stubborn, inflexible man who seeks to pass himself off as a modern, thinking, radical, innovative, original football manager but his time with us has shown him to be none of those things.   He is an impostor which we might be able to live with having lived with TSM but he is also Lerner's poodle.   He has been told that his job is safe when we go down and that is good enough for him.   All the shame and the pain relegation will heap on us means nothing to him so long as he is safe personally.

I can still see him on the touchline at Millwall when their winner went in, taking his hands out of his pockets for the first time, giving three or four feeble claps and putting them back in his pockets.   That was the most animated he had been all night.

I couldn't agree more. I felt like this when seeing him glibly sit and watch us get turned over at Bradford with the air of one who was in no way responsible for the farce unfolding before him.

The only thing that should save him is if he saves us. A man who has presided over the season that we are having with little effort to address the all too obvious problems only deserves to be shown the door.

Agree with you both and andy h , the man is put of his depth in my opinion and the villa is too big a club for him.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4108 on: February 26, 2013, 07:10:55 PM »
Not so much as not liking him john.   It is the fact that he does not ring true.   Nothing he does measures up to what he achieved at Colchester and at Norwich.   I will give you an example of what I mean.

For weeks we have been told that the players are in a fight and have got to fight. Lerner deigned to comment after one defeat (Wigan?) that we should keep on fighting.  Why did Lambert not fight Lerner and Faulkner in January to get reinforcements?   Any manager worth the name would have been, should have been purple in the face and banging Lerner's desk with his fist demanding money to save the club.   He either did not do it or if he did he has not had the bottle to come out and say that he tried to make something, anything happen.   If he had any shred of respect for the fans he would tell us whether or not he tried to do what was an absolutely no brainer move for at least one defender.   He has bought into this culture of secrecy which has enveloped the club and has neither the guts nor the brain to opt out of it.

He and Lerner and Faulkner have something I care about very deeply in their care.   I don't think they know or care enough about Aston Villa FC.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4109 on: February 26, 2013, 07:14:44 PM »
What did he achieve with Colchester, Brian?

 


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