Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Post-Match Thread

[Witton Warrior]

More worryingly though. Lambert has just been on the radio and said 'IF' he brings anyone else into the club in Jan it will only be lower league players as that's all the funding he's been given

What was that on? I heard on 5Live say he wouldn't be bringing in "experience"...

[eastie]

Just driving home with radio on I heard them say lambert has said tonight he believes that going with youth is the right policy and he will stick with that policy - if that's the case I really worry for our future.

[onje_villa]

Worried.
More worried about the direction of the club than the actual results, strangely enough.
Lowering expectations, lowering wage bill, fans now happy just to survive in the league. Lerner must be trying to sell, otherwise he'd surely see the madness in his plan.

[eastie]

While some claim they're seeing a bigger picture, some claim they're seeing improvements, and some claim we're going in the right direction. I'm just seeing a truly awful team.

Not just of late, ALL season. People keep banging on 'What about Norwich away, what about Liverpool away ?'. WHAT ABOUT THEM ?. In either game we could've conceeded numerous goals, but we won both. Were they the norm or the exceptions ?. Before those we had truly wretched performances against QPR, Reading and Stoke. Those three performances would've been booed out the city under McLeish last season. This season I was assured they were great as we didn't lose.

Apparently a couple of sideways passes on the floor every now and again means we're now 'playing football'. Not to me it doesn't. Any team in the world will allow you to pass the ball aimlessly around the middle third where you have no chance of hurting them.

At Forest pre season, I was concerned. At West Ham on the opening day I was dejected. Ever since i've been watching aimless football, with no passion or style. Yet i've almost been convinced my own eyes need testing as i keep reading others posting things about my club that i'm clearly not seeing myself. I know we all see things differently, but i'm surprised how differently.

To sum up, it's abysmal. I've got less confidence than I had last season and that's saying something.

If Lambert offered his resignation tonight i'd be delighted. If Lerner announced he's put the club up for sale i'd be even happier. Neither are ever going to take this club forward. I've seen NOTHING from Lambert's 'revolution' to suggest anything other than more of the same is to come.

Someone text me today 'we've got 10 players out'. I thought yes, but of those he'd probably only have picked Gabby and Vlaar. Hardly world beaters.

I was told 'we need experience'. I thought, funny that. When he could pick the likes of Bent, N'Zogbia, Given he chose not to. He also farmed out (the admittedly pretty useless, but experienced) Hutton & Warnock without having any cover for them.

It was an appointment most of us were ok with, but it's clearly not working at all. I'm not seeing any tactical nous, and i'm not seeing any man management either. What are Lambert's actual qualities ?

That's me. You don't have to agree.

I would pick Vlaar but not gabby- apart from that you've summed things up very well.

[CJ]

The defeats against Chelsea and Spurs were embarrassing and hurtful. Today was just total humiliation. The squad simply is not good enough, and the real worry is I got the distinct impression from his interview with WM on the way home he doesn't plan on bringing any experienced heads in during January. Still...we pick ourselves up and go again....

[Sleeuwenhoek]

2012; 6 wins in 39 games, Happy New Year!!

[olaftab]

This was painful. This was Wigan. I made excuses to myself about the world class players at Chelsea and Spurs but today the team that thrashed is Wigan. A team with only 15 points before today. I am numb with shock. The kids are wasted now after these threr defeats. We need to remove them from the firing line. Time to get in some mercenaries in now to save ourselves.
It's not too late lot of time and games to go but Lambert needs to admit that his project can be put on hold whilst we fix the platform because without that there is no point.

[Andy Poole]

Just saw this on the BBC.  Pretty succinct!

"Lost. One football club by the name of Aston Villa. A famous and proud old club, thought to have lost its way on route to the promised land. Last seen being dragged through the mud by some inconspicuous American. If found please return to its rightful place. Thanks."

[David_Nab]

Well the last 3 matches have shown the direction club is taking it wrong.Lamberts Norwich team conceded 66 goals last season so the conceding goals issue is not new.
As stated above he has drilled into the players to chase down the ball but they just get pulled out of position and we get passed around..Southampton was a early example of this.

[eastie]

6 wins all year in the league ..6 fucking wins in 12 months !!!
Sack Lambert ..who the fuck else could we get in now ...

I wonder what Di Matteo's up to..

Forgot about him- could he do any worse?

[PaulWinch again]

More worryingly though. Lambert has just been on the radio and said 'IF' he brings anyone else into the club in Jan it will only be lower league players as that's all the funding he's been given

What was that on? I heard on 5Live say he wouldn't be bringing in "experience"...

Yeah that's what I heard.

[VinnieChase84]

More worryingly though. Lambert has just been on the radio and said 'IF' he brings anyone else into the club in Jan it will only be lower league players as that's all the funding he's been given

If that's true then it's evident that Randy has given up. In which case, he should sell. We'll go down without proper investment, he must be able to see that.

PL made it clear that the kids are here to stay

[Legion]

We're not very good,
We're not very good,
We're not very
We're not very
We're not very good...

[Stu]

Worried.
More worried about the direction of the club than the actual results, strangely enough.
Lowering expectations, lowering wage bill, fans now happy just to survive in the league. Lerner must be trying to sell, otherwise he'd surely see the madness in his plan.

Yep, the gradual lowering of expectations has been achieved IMO.

[Stu]

More worryingly though. Lambert has just been on the radio and said 'IF' he brings anyone else into the club in Jan it will only be lower league players as that's all the funding he's been given

If that's true then it's evident that Randy has given up. In which case, he should sell. We'll go down without proper investment, he must be able to see that.

PL made it clear that the kids are here to stay

Thank fuck I'm leaving the country in a couple of weeks then.