Quote from: eastie on December 28, 2012, 08:11:48 AMI think Parker and lampard who were mentioned are both great pros and far less maintenance than the likes of Ireland and nzogbia who both have reputations for being awkward to say the least.Lampard would not come here in any case but if if Parker did I think he would set a great example to younger players rather than being a prima Donna.you really think Villa will pay £100,000 a week to an injury prone footballer ?
I think Parker and lampard who were mentioned are both great pros and far less maintenance than the likes of Ireland and nzogbia who both have reputations for being awkward to say the least.Lampard would not come here in any case but if if Parker did I think he would set a great example to younger players rather than being a prima Donna.
Quote from: JUAN PABLO on December 28, 2012, 11:20:02 AMQuote from: eastie on December 28, 2012, 08:11:48 AMI think Parker and lampard who were mentioned are both great pros and far less maintenance than the likes of Ireland and nzogbia who both have reputations for being awkward to say the least.Lampard would not come here in any case but if if Parker did I think he would set a great example to younger players rather than being a prima Donna.you really think Villa will pay £100,000 a week to an injury prone footballer ?No I don't think it will happen but Parker is the type of player we should be looking at .
Quote from: eastie on December 28, 2012, 11:21:40 AMQuote from: JUAN PABLO on December 28, 2012, 11:20:02 AMQuote from: eastie on December 28, 2012, 08:11:48 AMI think Parker and lampard who were mentioned are both great pros and far less maintenance than the likes of Ireland and nzogbia who both have reputations for being awkward to say the least.Lampard would not come here in any case but if if Parker did I think he would set a great example to younger players rather than being a prima Donna.you really think Villa will pay £100,000 a week to an injury prone footballer ?No I don't think it will happen but Parker is the type of player we should be looking at .true but it will be a 21 year old version on £15,000 a week . not want we really need at the moment PL has been looking at Luke Murphy at Crewe , not sure what position he plays
Quote from: JUAN PABLO on December 28, 2012, 11:24:08 AMQuote from: eastie on December 28, 2012, 11:21:40 AMQuote from: JUAN PABLO on December 28, 2012, 11:20:02 AMQuote from: eastie on December 28, 2012, 08:11:48 AMI think Parker and lampard who were mentioned are both great pros and far less maintenance than the likes of Ireland and nzogbia who both have reputations for being awkward to say the least.Lampard would not come here in any case but if if Parker did I think he would set a great example to younger players rather than being a prima Donna.you really think Villa will pay £100,000 a week to an injury prone footballer ?No I don't think it will happen but Parker is the type of player we should be looking at .true but it will be a 21 year old version on £15,000 a week . not want we really need at the moment PL has been looking at Luke Murphy at Crewe , not sure what position he plays Midfielder, would probably slot in well with Westwood knowing each others game, but again a young player lacking experience.
I cant get any inside information anymore neither . My mate who worked at Villa as been headhunted by Liverpool , offered more money and hes gone there.
Quote from: JUAN PABLO on December 28, 2012, 11:38:04 AMI cant get any inside information anymore neither . My mate who worked at Villa as been headhunted by Liverpool , offered more money and hes gone there.Fuck me - we can't even afford to keep our ITKs now!!
Quote from: N'Zimidy on December 28, 2012, 03:22:11 AMQuote from: tomd2103 on December 28, 2012, 02:34:44 AMI don't quite understand this opinion that every British player either over or approaching the age of 30 is a mercenary who is only interested in picking up their wages. Even if they put in the effort and do well for us I think you're missing many of my points. 1. No resale value2. Keeping youngsters out of the side3. Massive wages4. Decline in performances / fitness over the length of the contract5. Can't get them off the wage bill6. We aren't getting relegated so what's the point in panic buying for a quick fix - invest in our youth and focus on going forward rather than stagnating7. I would much rather finish 16th and build in the summer with the money rather than buying in 30 year olds to get us to 15th and in the process waste millions that we desperately need If there was a real threat of relegation then I would be all for bringing in somebody like Benayoun or Arshavin but we aren't and the money we spend on such players and the £50k a week contracts over 3 years we give them will continue to suck us down into the lower half of the table.1) Sometimes you just get value for money even if their resale value is nil. Compare the likes of Merson and Dublin, to say Curtis Davies and Delph. Years of great service from two older players, compared to bright young things, who turned out to be shite....with no resale value.2) A lot of our youngsters shouldn't be in the side as often as they are, so not necessarily a problem.3) Not necessarily, although even if true, if it's the difference between staying up and going down, the wages are a non-issue4) That can be true of young players as well, if they're not very good.5) Again, that's true of any player if they turn out to be shit. At least with older players you have some sort of history to go by.6) We might get relegated, it's a very real threat. We've got loads of youth, so one or two older heads shouldn't stop them developing, and indeed should help. We risk ruining the good young players we do have by destroying their confidence.\7) Fair point, but I'd rather buy a couple of more experienced players and stay up, than stick with the current squad and risk going down. At which point any good young players like Benteke would be off like a shot to better club.
Quote from: tomd2103 on December 28, 2012, 02:34:44 AMI don't quite understand this opinion that every British player either over or approaching the age of 30 is a mercenary who is only interested in picking up their wages. Even if they put in the effort and do well for us I think you're missing many of my points. 1. No resale value2. Keeping youngsters out of the side3. Massive wages4. Decline in performances / fitness over the length of the contract5. Can't get them off the wage bill6. We aren't getting relegated so what's the point in panic buying for a quick fix - invest in our youth and focus on going forward rather than stagnating7. I would much rather finish 16th and build in the summer with the money rather than buying in 30 year olds to get us to 15th and in the process waste millions that we desperately need If there was a real threat of relegation then I would be all for bringing in somebody like Benayoun or Arshavin but we aren't and the money we spend on such players and the £50k a week contracts over 3 years we give them will continue to suck us down into the lower half of the table.
I don't quite understand this opinion that every British player either over or approaching the age of 30 is a mercenary who is only interested in picking up their wages.
Quote from: Concrete John on December 28, 2012, 11:41:28 AMQuote from: JUAN PABLO on December 28, 2012, 11:38:04 AMI cant get any inside information anymore neither . My mate who worked at Villa as been headhunted by Liverpool , offered more money and hes gone there.Fuck me - we can't even afford to keep our ITKs now!!so true mate , nice paid apartment on the docks , more money etc etc . .