Good enough/Not Good Enough

[eastie]

Maybe it's because he's shown himself subsequently to be rubbish at getting the ball to another Villa player?

i thought he had a 90% pass completion stat on saturday ?

Delph has a pass success rate of just under 90% for the season. It still surprises me.

I expect the vast percentage of those passes were less than 10 yards.

[john e]

Maybe it's because he's shown himself subsequently to be rubbish at getting the ball to another Villa player?

i thought he had a 90% pass completion stat on saturday ?

Delph has a pass success rate of just under 90% for the season. It still surprises me.

ok so its for the season,
yes i was supprised to, but it does show he does find another Villa player more often than we think

[PeterWithesShin]

Maybe it's because he's shown himself subsequently to be rubbish at getting the ball to another Villa player?

i thought he had a 90% pass completion stat on saturday ?

Delph has a pass success rate of just under 90% for the season. It still surprises me.

I expect the vast percentage of those passes were less than 10 yards.

But it still contradicts one of the main criticisms of him that he gives the ball away too much. When I checked it was a higher pass rate than Carzola (the Arsenal fella) Gerrard and a quite a few others.

And yes, i'm still surprised.

[PaulWinch again]

Maybe it's because he's shown himself subsequently to be rubbish at getting the ball to another Villa player?

i thought he had a 90% pass completion stat on saturday ?

Delph has a pass success rate of just under 90% for the season. It still surprises me.

I expect the vast percentage of those passes were less than 10 yards.

But it still contradicts one of the main criticisms of him that he gives the ball away too much. When I checked it was a higher pass rate than Carzola (the Arsenal fella) Gerrard and a quite a few others.

And yes, i'm still surprised.

Although he does seem to get tackled a lot before he passes the ball and loses it that way.

[Mister E]

Delph has a pass success rate of just under 90% for the season. It still surprises me.

I expect the vast percentage of those passes were less than 10 yards.

What, like many of the Spanish players?! 

[curiousorange]

I'm surprised by that stat. Are they including ones that he makes during the warm-up?

[Chipsticks]

Maybe it's because he's shown himself subsequently to be rubbish at getting the ball to another Villa player?

i thought he had a 90% pass completion stat on saturday ?

Delph has a pass success rate of just under 90% for the season. It still surprises me.

I expect the vast percentage of those passes were less than 10 yards.

Is that a bad thing?

[Mister E]

I'm surprised by that stat. Are they including ones that he makes during the warm-up?

Ha, ha.
As I said earlier, successive managers have been trying to shoehorn him into a DMF role: perhaps he needs some time in the role where he made his name, as an attacking MF. Then we'll at least know what he might be capable of before ditching him

[PaulWinch again]

Delph's problem isn't necessarily his short passing it's that his first touch is often so poor that he gets tackled and loses the ball immediately.

[pauliewalnuts]

Delph's problem isn't necessarily his short passing it's that his first touch is often so poor that he gets tackled and loses the ball immediately.

Delph does three things.

1. Passes successfully, but sideways.
2. Wins ball, turns, runs straight into opposition player, loses ball.
3. First touch causes ball to bounce off him at random angle, dives in two footed and late to get it back, gives away free kick.

[jcsutv]

Reo Coker?

[supertom]

Reo Coker?

Clappy thing.

[supertom]

The problem with Bannan is where to play him. In our current system he's far too lightweight to play in the centre two. I mean Delphs no brick out house by any stretch and not a particularly great player but he's the man of choice at the moment.

Bannan for me also needs to keep things simpler too. He goes for the Hollywood pass too often and misses. I just think he's now reached an age where he should have made it by now but hasn't, for whatever reason. In truth I think O Neill did him and a few others, no favours by not helping them develop more 3-4 years ago. They'd have been better players at this point.

Also for all that he's supposed to be technically very good, his set piece delivery has been consistently poor. Ours just generally is, and if his was much better it'd give PL a good reason to start him.

I don't see him making the grade to be honest. He needs a move to a championship side. Maybe if they get promoted in the future he'll get another crack at this level. IMO Whittingham played better for us in his time than BB has, and has developed now into a solid player. He should be in the top flight IMO. Perhaps BB should make the drop and hope he has more luck coming back up than PW.

[Rigadon]

I like Bannan, but he doesn't seem capable of making the step up from promising kid to proper midfielder.  Hope I'm wrong.  Same for Delph.  We need to buy a fully fledged and cultured midfielder in January.

[N'ZMAV]

Bannan is a bit too lightweight to play in the middle of a 4-4-2.
I think Ireland and KEA would work. Ireland seems to have added the work ethic to his game now. We should try that with Holman on the right and maybe Bannan on the left?