How depressing has it all become?

[not3bad]

I believe we will be ok, it will be a rollercoaster but we will stay up.

I totally agree with the honourable gentleman. It will be difficult and I can see us in the drop-zone for a while leading up to Christmas but it will all come good.

Patience is going to be vital, and unfortunately we're not renown for being very patient...

Are you sure about that?

McCatpiss was cut an awful lot of slack last season, it was very late in the day before the home crowd turned on him.

You think showing impatience, giving Lambert less time that TSM and getting yet another manager in could be a better option?

[Risso]

Where has anybody suggested that?

[not3bad]

That seemed to be the inference Rip Van's post.  He said "are you sure we should be patient becuse we were with Mcleish and look where that got us".  At least that's the way I read it.

[dave.woodhall]

It seemed to be disagreeing with the idea that we are impatient, citing last season and McLeish as an example.

[not3bad]

Fair enough.

[Risso]

Deary me.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

It seemed to be disagreeing with the idea that we are impatient, citing last season and McLeish as an example.

Correct Dave.
It belies the media led bollocks that we're an impatient, ungrateful mob.
The last Manager was dreadful, but I was amazed at the amount of leeway he received from supporters and it was only towards the end that he started getting the crowd on his spineless back.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

H

I think we need to find our Dave Mackay (Which Brian Clough sign for Derby to help his very young team and then end up champions) This mean a proper midfield general and a wonderful winger.

Have you just watched the Damned United by any chance?

Great film.

Edit: as an aside - Dave mckay's son, Murray was a couple of years above me at my school.

An awful lot of conjecture in that film.

This is the best description of those times

http://www.amazon.co.uk/We-Are-Damned-United-Clough/dp/1845967003

[adrenachrome]

It seemed to be disagreeing with the idea that we are impatient, citing last season and McLeish as an example.

Correct Dave.
It belies the media led bollocks that we're an impatient, ungrateful mob.
The last Manager was dreadful, but I was amazed at the amount of leeway he received from supporters and it was only towards the end that he started getting the crowd on his spineless back.

Exactly, and when all that pent up pressure finally broke, TSM was swept away like a turd on a tidal wave of righteous rage.

Impatient, my arse.

[PeterWithesShin]

He was finally properly turned on in the 35th game of the season. Funny how that's rarely mentioned when they go on about him given no time.

[danlanza]

I would still still support ( couldn't watch if we were relegated, live to far away) Villa in any division. Tattoo on my arm and the inside of my heart. They will always be a massive part of my life, no matter what happens.
In my view, you don't become a Villa fan, you are Born a Villa fan.

[cheltenhamlion]

A tattoo on the inside of your heart? Crikey, that must have stung.

[sonlyme]

Exciting as it was, the O'Neill era did have the feeling of a Rollercoaster which was only minute away from catching fire.

A truer word has never been said.

For like a rollercoaster - the ups were just preparations for the downs.  £118 million spent for what?  Sixth. Thrice.  And even that saw moaning.

Only at the Villa.

[JB1811]

I look forward to going to the games this season a lot more than last, although we might lose, at least we will be trying to win, rather than trying to draw 0-0.

[pedro25]

Exciting as it was, the O'Neill era did have the feeling of a Rollercoaster which was only minute away from catching fire.

A truer word has never been said.

For like a rollercoaster - the ups were just preparations for the downs.  £118 million spent for what?  Sixth. Thrice.  And even that saw moaning.

Only at the Villa.

To think we genuinely felt like we were going to finish higher than Man City, Spurs and Arsenal, we may never have that feeling again.  There was a genuine chance to break the top 4 back then, now even with significant expenditure it is soo much harder because of the progress Spurs and in particular Man City have made over the past 3/4 years.  Not to mention Chelsea, Arsenal, Man U,Everton and Newcastle all being arguably stronger now too.