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Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #585 on: November 30, 2012, 07:32:07 AM »
the minute something goes wrong it is Lambert out
Who said 'Lambert out'?

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #586 on: November 30, 2012, 08:51:47 AM »
Yeah in fairness I don't think anyone wants Lambert out.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #587 on: November 30, 2012, 09:11:55 AM »
Villa fans should be applauded for their support for Lambert especially the ".... claret and blue army..." chant. Why? Because the league table don't lie and we are mostly pretty poor. The difference between us and fans of say, Sunderland ( hee hee)and others is that large sections of supporters are not chasing the manager out. Our immediate expectations are not too high, (keep us up this season) and will give him a chance looking to the future.

We are giving him a chance because we can see what he is trying to do and think he will get it right( with some cash of course). Good for us.

See, WE are NOT fickle. We like him.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #588 on: November 30, 2012, 09:24:35 AM »
It was. It got more and more out of perspective as grown men lost all control of their perspective, and then for some reason, became about the owner... again.


It amazes me that despite being the overwhelming choice for the job this summer, and despite being backed with 23 million quid give or take, higher than most clubs in the league, the minute something goes wrong it is Lambert out and Randy is the worst owner in the history of mankind with some people. Villa have been a car since the summer MON left, but there are many things that have contributed to that, not just the actions of Lerner and Faulkner who have got plenty wrong, and some things right.

If anybody seems to be losing all sense of perspective, it's you I'm afraid in this instance.  The match thread wasn't anything like 'poisonous'.  It was just people reacting honestly to what wasn't a very good match at all.  Everybody was relieved that we won though, so I'm not entirely sure what your problem is.

But you are right, the club has been a car crash for ages now, and in my opinion that's all down to the utterly inept ownership of Lerner.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #589 on: November 30, 2012, 09:30:41 AM »
It was. It got more and more out of perspective as grown men lost all control of their perspective, and then for some reason, became about the owner... again.


It amazes me that despite being the overwhelming choice for the job this summer, and despite being backed with 23 million quid give or take, higher than most clubs in the league, the minute something goes wrong it is Lambert out and Randy is the worst owner in the history of mankind with some people. Villa have been a car since the summer MON left, but there are many things that have contributed to that, not just the actions of Lerner and Faulkner who have got plenty wrong, and some things right.

But you are right, the club has been a car crash for ages now, and in my opinion that's all down to the utterly inept ownership of Lerner.

i think we sometimes forget the Ellis out protests that went on in the past, and then compare that to some minor grumblings about the current owner.

If Ellis was still in charge at the moment with things as they are then imagine the protests we would be having? Ellis would be viewed as the anti-christ! Lerner is getting off quite lightly considering the absolute nightmare that the past few seasons have become

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #590 on: November 30, 2012, 09:35:27 AM »
Lerner is getting off quite lightly considering the absolute nightmare that the past few seasons have become
Nail on the head Mark.


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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #591 on: November 30, 2012, 09:37:04 AM »
If this had happened under Doug....

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #592 on: November 30, 2012, 10:07:49 AM »
I wonder why Lerner gets off lightly compared to Doug? Could it possibly be that most people think he's nowhere near as bad?

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #593 on: November 30, 2012, 10:18:14 AM »
I wonder why Lerner gets off lightly compared to Doug? Could it possibly be that most people think he's nowhere near as bad?

Probably.  But then lots of people still believe all the hype and marketing nonsense.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #594 on: November 30, 2012, 10:20:03 AM »
I wonder why Lerner gets off lightly compared to Doug? Could it possibly be that most people think he's nowhere near as bad?

Probably.  But then lots of people still believe all the hype and marketing nonsense.

That's just the modern world, innit?

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #595 on: November 30, 2012, 01:01:02 PM »
I wonder why Lerner gets off lightly compared to Doug? Could it possibly be that most people think he's nowhere near as bad?

Possibly 6 years compared to 102 years. If Randolph is still here in 10 years we might be giving him worse than Herbert ever got.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #596 on: November 30, 2012, 01:53:14 PM »
Getting results when we play poorly is something we've failed to do for the previous two seasons.

We want to win and play well while we're at it. If we cannot do that, then lets just win.

I think this manager is trying to do both, with an eye on the future; a plan. Something we've not had pre-FA Cup final.

The lack of investment for the previous two years has seen us slip. I now think the eye has been put on the ball in ways it wasn't from 2010 to 2012 and also from 2006 to 2010.


I like him and I am willing to back him for as long as it takes.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #597 on: November 30, 2012, 02:12:47 PM »
I wonder why Lerner gets off lightly compared to Doug? Could it possibly be that most people think he's nowhere near as bad?

Probably.  But then lots of people still believe all the hype and marketing nonsense.

I would have thought that as a bean counter, you'd be the first to stand up and demonstrate how Lerner has consistantly invested or are we to ignore everything because he appointed TSM and hasn't given his every last cent to the transfer kitty?

Yes, he's made mistakes but he still does what we most want him to do, invest in the club.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #598 on: November 30, 2012, 02:14:04 PM »
There was less media and internet hype in general in Doug's days. Imagine the forums on here through the worst of Dougs reign. Fucking melt down.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #599 on: November 30, 2012, 02:14:26 PM »
I wonder why Lerner gets off lightly compared to Doug? Could it possibly be that most people think he's nowhere near as bad?

Probably.  But then lots of people still believe all the hype and marketing nonsense.

I would have thought that as a bean counter, you'd be the first to stand up and demonstrate how Lerner has consistantly invested or are we to ignore everything because he appointed TSM and hasn't given his every last cent to the transfer kitty?

Yes, he's made mistakes but he still does what we most want him to do, invest in the club.

Spending money the way Lerner has isn't investment, it's stupidity.  The way he's run the club from a business perspective makes me wince.

 


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