Lambert Out?

[exiled on the wirral!]

My worry is that Mcleish used all our good luck last season. I thought we started to look better after we scored, and would probably have won untill the sending off which i still think was a bit harsh. I don t think we are getting the rub of the green despite the effort we are putting in.

Im hoping we are going to win one of those big games coming up against man utd, citeh or arsenal, I think if we manage to do that, it might kick start our season!

[JJ-AV]

My biggest worry with Lambert is his substitutions. He got them (very) wrong against Norwich and Spurs. To the point where I think it may have cost us points.

[ez]

The last time we sacked three managers in three years was back in the 1960's. DickTaylor in 1967, Tommy Cummings in 1968 and Tommy Docherty in 1969 and that resulted in relegation to Division 3. Mind you the two years in that division were great fun! Thousands of Villa supporters taking over tiny grounds that most of us would have never visited had we not been relegated? Oh yes and a League Cup final!

Welcome to the site - good first post.

I don't think we sacked Houllier did we?  Didn't he retire or at least leave by mutual agreement on health grounds?

Something like that. We've only sacked one manager in about 18 years.

[martin o`who??]

We can`t deny its been a shocking start to the Season, but PL was dealt a crap hand to start with, a threadbare squad, shorn of its best players and increasingly reliant on untried/unproven/underachieving (think Albrighton), Youth team players, add to this, a Chairman who seems to have lost interest, and an ever dwindling pot of money to strenghthen the side with. We have, at present, no alternative but to Keep faith with PL, and i think we will, but i just wonder, if the form continues to  flatline the way it is, at what point RL would make a change. He may have to, i fear, because this can`t carry on forever.

[rutski]

We can`t deny its been a shocking start to the Season, but PL was dealt a crap hand to start with, a threadbare squad, shorn of its best players and increasingly reliant on untried/unproven/underachieving (think Albrighton), Youth team players, add to this, a Chairman who seems to have lost interest, and an ever dwindling pot of money to strenghthen the side with. We have, at present, no alternative but to Keep faith with PL, and i think we will, but i just wonder, if the form continues to  flatline the way it is, at what point RL would make a change. He may have to, i fear, because this can`t carry on forever.

lambert is here for the foreseeable so get used to it and support him.

[silhillvilla]

My biggest worry with Lambert is his substitutions. He got them (very) wrong against Norwich and Spurs. To the point where I think it may have cost us points.

The narrow diamond formation cost us a lot of points too. Hopefully weve seen the back of that.
Left Back is an area of particular concern though.

[dekko]

I'm sure its been said before, but should the unthinkable happen and we end up playing Championship football next year, we should still stick with Lambert.  Its becoming increasingly clear that he might not quite be the managerial genius some were expecting, but he sure as hell knows how to get teams promoted.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I'm sure its been said before, but should the unthinkable happen and we end up playing Championship football next year, we should still stick with Lambert.  Its becoming increasingly clear that he might not quite be the managerial genius some were expecting, but he sure as hell knows how to get teams promoted.

Not a lot of fucking good if he's incapable of keeping teams in the top flight.

If we go down I would fully expect him to be out on his arse and rightly so.

[Rigadon]

I'm sure its been said before, but should the unthinkable happen and we end up playing Championship football next year, we should still stick with Lambert.  Its becoming increasingly clear that he might not quite be the managerial genius some were expecting, but he sure as hell knows how to get teams promoted.

Not a lot of fucking good if he's incapable of keeping teams in the top flight.

If we go down I would fully expect him to be out on his arse and rightly so.

Have to agree Rip.  We're nowhere near the point of needing a change of manager but if he took us down he'd have been an abject failure.  I find it bizarre people would see it otherwise.

[Rigadon]

Also, TSM got teams promoted.  Can't imagine too many on here would have wanted him to stay on if last year would've seen us relegated.

[Salsa Party Animal]

I think we should give him 3 season even he took us down. Paul Lambert got a bigger job than we thought, and he would identify by now what he needed to do in January to improve the situation and his scout would be working hard to recommend players from German Football and aboard. 

[pauliewalnuts]

I'd stick with him even if we went down.

What would be the point in replacing him? Who with?

It's not like he has a fatal defect like McLeish does with his defence obsessed anti-football bollocks.

[PaulWinch again]

Stick with him whatever, as I say I can see what he's trying to do. It's not working at the moment, but the idea is a lot more appealing than Mcleish's plan. Also at least three of his signings look very good players at the moment, Westwood, Benteke and Lowton.

[Rigadon]

I'd stick with him even if we went down.

What would be the point in replacing him? Who with?

It's not like he has a fatal defect like McLeish does with his defence obsessed anti-football bollocks.

I find that surprising Paulie,  is it apathy talking? 

[olaftab]

I'm sure its been said before, but should the unthinkable happen and we end up playing Championship football next year, we should still stick with Lambert.  Its becoming increasingly clear that he might not quite be the managerial genius some were expecting, but he sure as hell knows how to get teams promoted.

We won't get relegated but if bad luck does strike Lambert must stay. We are rebuilding the club.