Lambert Out?

[ROBBO]

Just been browsing a few websites and the name of Harry redknapp keeps being bandied about - id stick with lambert but I doubt if we are cut adrift at Xmas whether randy would panic and go for uncle Harry .

This is Randy Lerner's mess not Lambert's. No point sacking a top manager to bring in Harry unless you hand him £50m.



Randy has got us into this mess, let him take the flak not Paul Lambert who is trying to work miracles with the worst group of villa players I have seen since I started supporting in 1994 as a nine year old. He hadn't much money to spend but had a heap of holes to fill.

You may get some stick blaming Randy.

We need a win so badly.

[Stu]

I still can't believe I have to see this thread everytime I login to this website.  Any of you who think Lambert is not an improvement on the sacks of shit who were on the bench last year and did so much to destroy the great name of our club need to spend some time on the naughty step.

In what way is this season better than last so far?   It isn't.

I didn't understand the mass jubilation when we got Lambert, in the same way I didn't understand the mass hysteria last season.   Two shit managers, with a shit squad.   What do you expect to happen on the pitch?   The only difference is one of them didn't work for that lot down the road.

I didn't get this either, his appointment was truly underwhelming.

I  was pleased we had got him as it was about the best we could get, we've become a small act these days.

Quite. Who else could Villa have gone for in the summer? Lambert's record is decent as well, I'm not sure who else out there we could have realistically gone for and got.

[Ad@m]

If Randy thought the wage bill got out of hand under MON he'd have a heart attack if Redknapp was in charge.

We are where we are. There's no point changing the manager now. Yesterday was the first time I even entertained the idea that in the long run a relegation might actually be good for the club.

At the moment we have a group of kids whose only experience of the top flight is defeats or scrapping for draws. Confidence is shot to pieces and I don't think they can cope with a relegation scrap.

Were the worst to happen and we did go down I'm convinced Lambert would bring us back up at the first attempt and we can then have another crack with much more confidence.

In March 1990 when we were 3 points clear of Liverpool with a game in hand at the top of the league our mid-80s trip to the 2nd division didn't look too bad.

[eastie]

If Randy thought the wage bill got out of hand under MON he'd have a heart attack if Redknapp was in charge.

We are where we are. There's no point changing the manager now. Yesterday was the first time I even entertained the idea that in the long run a relegation might actually be good for the club.

At the moment we have a group of kids whose only experience of the top flight is defeats or scrapping for draws. Confidence is shot to pieces and I don't think they can cope with a relegation scrap.

Were the worst to happen and we did go down I'm convinced Lambert would bring us back up at the first attempt and we can then have another crack with much more confidence.

In March 1990 when we were 3 points clear of Liverpool with a game in hand at the top of the league our mid-80s trip to the 2nd division didn't look too bad.

The ga,e has changed a lot since then, the money in the premier league is massive and relegation would be financial disaster, surely Lerner would be better giving big money to lambert to save us rather than lose a fortune if relegated.

[saunders_heroes]

Lerner thought we could do it on the cheap. The start of the season has proven he can't. January will be the most important transfer window ever, in my opinion. We have to spend serious money on experienced PL players, and NO MORE cheap foreigner/lower league crap, else we will be plying our trade in the Championship next season.

[Ad@m]

If Randy thought the wage bill got out of hand under MON he'd have a heart attack if Redknapp was in charge.

We are where we are. There's no point changing the manager now. Yesterday was the first time I even entertained the idea that in the long run a relegation might actually be good for the club.

At the moment we have a group of kids whose only experience of the top flight is defeats or scrapping for draws. Confidence is shot to pieces and I don't think they can cope with a relegation scrap.

Were the worst to happen and we did go down I'm convinced Lambert would bring us back up at the first attempt and we can then have another crack with much more confidence.

In March 1990 when we were 3 points clear of Liverpool with a game in hand at the top of the league our mid-80s trip to the 2nd division didn't look too bad.

The ga,e has changed a lot since then, the money in the premier league is massive and relegation would be financial disaster, surely Lerner would be better giving big money to lambert ve us rather than lose a fortune if relegated.

But equally the parachute payment regime is much more generous now.

It didn't do Newcastle any harm over the past few years.

[eastie]

Lerner thought we could do it on the cheap. The start of the season has proven he can't. January will be the most important transfer window ever, in my opinion. We have to spend serious money on experienced PL players, and NO MORE cheap foreigner/lower league crap, else we will be plying our trade in the Championship next season.

 I agree, anyone got any names in mind who realistically we could attract to the club?

[eastie]

If Randy thought the wage bill got out of hand under MON he'd have a heart attack if Redknapp was in charge.

We are where we are. There's no point changing the manager now. Yesterday was the first time I even entertained the idea that in the long run a relegation might actually be good for the club.

At the moment we have a group of kids whose only experience of the top flight is defeats or scrapping for draws. Confidence is shot to pieces and I don't think they can cope with a relegation scrap.

Were the worst to happen and we did go down I'm convinced Lambert would bring us back up at the first attempt and we can then have another crack with much more confidence.

In March 1990 when we were 3 points clear of Liverpool with a game in hand at the top of the league our mid-80s trip to the 2nd division didn't look too bad.

The ga,e has changed a lot since then, the money in the premier league is massive and relegation would be financial disaster, surely Lerner would be better giving big money to lambert ve us rather than lose a fortune if relegated.

But equally the parachute payment regime is much more generous now.

It didn't do Newcastle any harm over the past few years.

True but Newcastle bought quality players like , Ben Arfa, cisse, ba, cabaye , etc and made a killing on Carroll - we have bought nowhere near that quality .

[Clampy]

Hopefully our new scout (whoever it is, i forget his name) can find us a few players like Newcastle did. Frimpong from Arsenal for the 2nd half of the season would be nice.

[amfy]

What was the attendance yesterday ? Watching on telly here the top of the Holte looked half empty, the top of Trinity and the North stand looked the same.

Your view of the attendance will have been affected by the fact that so many there didn't seem to bother too much with the actual game. I have to say I have never seen such a phenomenal amount of arriving late and leaving early as yesterday. Most of the crowd around me in the Lower Holte didn't arrive till about 10 - 15 minutes into the game, left over 10 minutes before the end, and didn't bother with the 10 minutes either side of half time!
Norwich's fans sung "Is there a fire drill?" and "Your support is fucking shit" & it is hard to argue when it becomes easier to beat the traffic by staying till the final whistle.

[Ad@m]

But had you heard of any of those players before Newcastle bought them?

When MON was paying way over the odds for experienced Premier League players we were clamouring for cheap foreign imports. Now we're getting cheap foreign imports some are clamouring for experienced Premier League players.

Who says we're fickle?

[eastie]

But had you heard of any of those players before Newcastle bought them?

When MON was paying way over the odds for experienced Premier League players we were clamouring for cheap foreign imports. Now we're getting cheap foreign imports some are clamouring for experienced Premier League players.

Who says we're fickle?

.

It's getting the right balance and mix, we've gone from too many overpaid older players to too many younger inexperienced players, we need to add quality and experience.

If we went down would lerner want to stick around any longer or would he try and sell up , I agree sometimes as in newcastles case a step back can lead to steps forward but it can also lead to even further decline as in the case of forest , and others.

[Clampy]

But had you heard of any of those players before Newcastle bought them?

When MON was paying way over the odds for experienced Premier League players we were clamouring for cheap foreign imports. Now we're getting cheap foreign imports some are clamouring for experienced Premier League players.

Who says we're fickle?

Totally agree. I hope we don't go back down the road of paying £8m for the likes of Warnock. I'm sure the club don't want to do that either. That's not to say we should flood the team with lower league players, but hopefully now our scouting system will be a little more widespread.

[Holte L2]

But had you heard of any of those players before Newcastle bought them?

When MON was paying way over the odds for experienced Premier League players we were clamouring for cheap foreign imports. Now we're getting cheap foreign imports some are clamouring for experienced Premier League players.

Who says we're fickle?

Ben Arfa and Cabeye were playing regular European football. And Cisse top scored in Germany. So yeah I can say I heard off them all.

[eastie]

I think whoever we sign in January needs to be experienced in the premiership because we cannot afford a settling in period , we need someone to come straight in and deliver.