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Author Topic: Lambert Out?  (Read 149212 times)

Offline adrenachrome

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #195 on: October 25, 2012, 12:49:24 AM »
We need to give Paul Lambert our full backing.

Long term I am convinced he can do a good job for us. The short term looks like it will be a shaky ride.

Yes, and I believe that that this is the instinct of the majority of fans that go to the games.

This is not a pop at those fans fans who are unable or unwilling to go to games, by the way.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #196 on: October 25, 2012, 09:46:03 AM »
We need to give Paul Lambert our full backing.


I will again use the Long Haul flight analogy. We've hit some turbulence 10 mins into the flight. What you don't do is throw the pilot out of the plane.

As long as he pulls out of the nosedive before we hit the ground......

By which point people would be flapping anyway and trying to blame the airline rather than the pilot....

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #197 on: October 25, 2012, 09:47:15 AM »
I think we should stick with Lambert even if we do go down, I like what he's trying to achieve and the way he's gone about it. There is promise in the playing squad and an attitude from him that's spot on.

Offline peter w

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #198 on: October 25, 2012, 09:54:15 AM »
We need to give Paul Lambert our full backing.


I will again use the Long Haul flight analogy. We've hit some turbulence 10 mins into the flight. What you don't do is throw the pilot out of the plane.

You don't actually need a pilot to fly a plane. You'd just be in auto pilot. Kind of a more precise comparison...

Offline Risso

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #199 on: October 25, 2012, 10:03:42 AM »
I think we should stick with Lambert even if we do go down, I like what he's trying to achieve and the way he's gone about it. There is promise in the playing squad and an attitude from him that's spot on.

How poor will we actually have to be to get relegated though?  If McLeish could keep us up, then Lambert has no excuse for relegation seeing as he's got the same squad and has spent £20m to add to it.  Plus whatever he gets in January. 

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #200 on: October 25, 2012, 10:32:12 AM »
I think we should stick with Lambert even if we do go down, I like what he's trying to achieve and the way he's gone about it. There is promise in the playing squad and an attitude from him that's spot on.

How poor will we actually have to be to get relegated though?  If McLeish could keep us up, then Lambert has no excuse for relegation seeing as he's got the same squad and has spent £20m to add to it.  Plus whatever he gets in January.

He hasn't got the same squad though has he?

McLeish added players with no promise to the squad who had plateaued in their careers (or dipped) and Lambert has signed up-and-coming young professionals who will take time to adjust.

Are you suggesting that Lambert is worse than McLeish?

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #201 on: October 25, 2012, 10:34:11 AM »
I think we should stick with Lambert even if we do go down, I like what he's trying to achieve and the way he's gone about it. There is promise in the playing squad and an attitude from him that's spot on.

How poor will we actually have to be to get relegated though?  If McLeish could keep us up, then Lambert has no excuse for relegation seeing as he's got the same squad and has spent £20m to add to it.  Plus whatever he gets in January.

To be fair though Riss he has had to deal with a squad that was completely shot to pieces after a season under McLeish and has had to make a lot of changes in a short space of time.  I agree with Drummond that we should stick with him even if we do go down (though I don't think we will).   

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #202 on: October 25, 2012, 10:40:27 AM »
I think we should stick with Lambert even if we do go down, I like what he's trying to achieve and the way he's gone about it. There is promise in the playing squad and an attitude from him that's spot on.

How poor will we actually have to be to get relegated though?  If McLeish could keep us up, then Lambert has no excuse for relegation seeing as he's got the same squad and has spent £20m to add to it.  Plus whatever he gets in January.

To be fair though Riss he has had to deal with a squad that was completely shot to pieces after a season under McLeish and has had to make a lot of changes in a short space of time.  I agree with Drummond that we should stick with him even if we do go down (though I don't think we will).   

Also, who would come to us if we moved on to our seventh manager in the space of three years?  Even Mick McCarthy would hesitate to touch that one!

Offline Risso

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #203 on: October 25, 2012, 10:43:48 AM »
I think we should stick with Lambert even if we do go down, I like what he's trying to achieve and the way he's gone about it. There is promise in the playing squad and an attitude from him that's spot on.

How poor will we actually have to be to get relegated though?  If McLeish could keep us up, then Lambert has no excuse for relegation seeing as he's got the same squad and has spent £20m to add to it.  Plus whatever he gets in January.

He hasn't got the same squad though has he?

McLeish added players with no promise to the squad who had plateaued in their careers (or dipped) and Lambert has signed up-and-coming young professionals who will take time to adjust.

Are you suggesting that Lambert is worse than McLeish?

Yes, if he takes us down.  I'm prepared to give him time, but already we've seen performances which are at least as bad as anything we saw last year.  If he gets us relegated, there's no way he should be retained.

Offline Billy Walker

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #204 on: October 25, 2012, 11:00:05 AM »
I think we should stick with Lambert even if we do go down, I like what he's trying to achieve and the way he's gone about it. There is promise in the playing squad and an attitude from him that's spot on.

How poor will we actually have to be to get relegated though?  If McLeish could keep us up, then Lambert has no excuse for relegation seeing as he's got the same squad and has spent £20m to add to it.  Plus whatever he gets in January.

He hasn't got the same squad though has he?

McLeish added players with no promise to the squad who had plateaued in their careers (or dipped) and Lambert has signed up-and-coming young professionals who will take time to adjust.

Are you suggesting that Lambert is worse than McLeish?

Yes, if he takes us down.  I'm prepared to give him time, but already we've seen performances which are at least as bad as anything we saw last year.  If he gets us relegated, there's no way he should be retained.

I've seen nothing anywhere near as bad as some of the stuff churned out last year.

Offline not3bad

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #205 on: October 25, 2012, 11:02:46 AM »
we've seen performances which are at least as bad as anything we saw last year

No we haven't.  Nothing like.  At least as bad as Spurs last year?  Heskey and Hutton in midfield?  You are having a giraffe.

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #206 on: October 25, 2012, 11:05:28 AM »
I saw more football being played against Swansea than the whole of last season. I have faith in this man he has seen the same failings as us, ie Collins Warnock Hutton Given.

Offline German James

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #207 on: October 25, 2012, 11:14:47 AM »
Are you suggesting that Lambert is worse than McLeish?
Yes, if he takes us down.

You must be joking! I know "football's a results game blah, blah, blah", but there are worlds between TSM and Lambert! I would stick with him, in the Championship... Although I don't believe we'll be going down.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #208 on: October 25, 2012, 11:34:26 AM »
I saw more football being played against Swansea than the whole of last season. I have faith in this man he has seen the same failings as us, ie Collins Warnock Hutton Given.

Amazed you would bracket given along with those other 3 wasters.

Offline sonlyme

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Re: Lambert Out?
« Reply #209 on: October 25, 2012, 11:40:31 AM »
After much research and a mass debate,  I have come to the conclusion that the internet exists for the 'fans' who never actually go to matches.

H&V has been an exception to this phenomenon in the main - I kid you not.

But the shortsighted spores of blame culture are beginning to infect even this hallowed place.

So a 'fan' - is shorthand for a fanatic.

Yet I saw and heard no fans of ours at Fulham - only supporters.

UTV

 


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