I said on the match thread, in the system we play the fullbacks have to offer a lot of attacking threat which they aren't at the moment.
I think its obvious to everyone that all our forwards need good supply as none of them are players who come deep, play off the striker or are in the mould of a DiCanio, Zola, Le Tiss etc. So they rely on accurate slide rule passes and crosses basically, neither of which they receive.He's played N'Zogbia, he's played Albrighton...their games are based on hugging the touch line and getting balls into the box...Ireland and Holman like to stay inside and rarely put a cross of telling nature in. Lowton with all credit has at times got forward enough but his crossing is hit and hope IMO. Maybe the game on Tuesday is a chance to mix it up and try playing with two widemen. My team and formation would be.... Given Lowton Vlaar Baker Bennett Westwood Albrighton N'Zogbia Ireland Bent BentekeSubs. Guzan Lichaj Clarke Holman Bannan Agbonlahor WeimannSee how it goes and make a decision for the Norwich game.
Man.Utd now playing the same formation with diamond midfield and as much as their full backs get forward its not working. Even the commentators have said how narrow they look and not sure the front men can receive all the options of support playing that way
I believe Bent, Gabby and especially Benteke are crying out for a wing man to stick balls in the 6 yard box. Bent loved having Young and Downing supplying him from out wide, and low and behold he scored 1 in every 2 for us. Instead our narrow diamond midfield keep going side to side, back, and back again desperately seeking a release out wide that just never comes, neither does decent supply to any of our frontmen.
Lambert said at a press conference early on when asked about this that it was old fashioned to play with width and all the best teams are now playing it down the middle. So whether we agree or not it seems like thats the way its going to be.
Quote from: Tuscans on October 21, 2012, 01:18:00 AMI think its obvious to everyone that all our forwards need good supply as none of them are players who come deep, play off the striker or are in the mould of a DiCanio, Zola, Le Tiss etc. So they rely on accurate slide rule passes and crosses basically, neither of which they receive.He's played N'Zogbia, he's played Albrighton...their games are based on hugging the touch line and getting balls into the box...Ireland and Holman like to stay inside and rarely put a cross of telling nature in. Lowton with all credit has at times got forward enough but his crossing is hit and hope IMO. Maybe the game on Tuesday is a chance to mix it up and try playing with two widemen. My team and formation would be.... Given Lowton Vlaar Baker Bennett Westwood Albrighton N'Zogbia Ireland Bent BentekeSubs. Guzan Lichaj Clarke Holman Bannan Agbonlahor WeimannSee how it goes and make a decision for the Norwich game.We would get absolutely destroyed in central midfield playing that formation and with that personnel. The problem playing a traditional 4-4-2 is that it will often leave you outnumbered in central midfield as most teams now play with three in there. I still think that 3-5-2 might suit us, but also agree with Monty's earlier comments about a 4-3-3 / 4-2-3-1 with Benteke as the lone striker.
Quote from: tomd2103 on October 24, 2012, 11:45:20 AMQuote from: Tuscans on October 21, 2012, 01:18:00 AMI think its obvious to everyone that all our forwards need good supply as none of them are players who come deep, play off the striker or are in the mould of a DiCanio, Zola, Le Tiss etc. So they rely on accurate slide rule passes and crosses basically, neither of which they receive.He's played N'Zogbia, he's played Albrighton...their games are based on hugging the touch line and getting balls into the box...Ireland and Holman like to stay inside and rarely put a cross of telling nature in. Lowton with all credit has at times got forward enough but his crossing is hit and hope IMO. Maybe the game on Tuesday is a chance to mix it up and try playing with two widemen. My team and formation would be.... Given Lowton Vlaar Baker Bennett Westwood Albrighton N'Zogbia Ireland Bent BentekeSubs. Guzan Lichaj Clarke Holman Bannan Agbonlahor WeimannSee how it goes and make a decision for the Norwich game.We would get absolutely destroyed in central midfield playing that formation and with that personnel. The problem playing a traditional 4-4-2 is that it will often leave you outnumbered in central midfield as most teams now play with three in there. I still think that 3-5-2 might suit us, but also agree with Monty's earlier comments about a 4-3-3 / 4-2-3-1 with Benteke as the lone striker. i think tuscans is taking the piss a bit, he can see the naivety and absurdity in his formation there, he is just joking really, he was going to put warnock in there too but he has left. he is just joking, stop taking him seriously you lot!!!