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Author Topic: Dalian Atkinson  (Read 98139 times)

Offline bob

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Re: Dalian Atkinson
« Reply #510 on: November 07, 2019, 08:06:41 PM »
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We know enough of what happened that night. We know enough about how the police treat people.

Please, enlighten us.

Us?

You mean enlighten you.

Do your own research.

Research? What I imagine you class as research is the sort of stuff that would embarrass people with an extensive tin foil hat collection.

Luckily, when you actually need the police they won't have the same pathetic mentality you have.

Imagine whatever you like.

Althoufh it I were to offer you any advice, it would be to try to calm your imagination down. You have gone bezerk in your imagination of me.

Offline Ads

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Re: Dalian Atkinson
« Reply #511 on: November 07, 2019, 08:36:48 PM »
Fuck the police

Really?

Yeah they murdered Dalian.

What's so difficult to understand?


A policeman is accused of murder. You'd have to be particularly dim to equate that one, potentially, rogue officer with all police.

Offline bob

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Re: Dalian Atkinson
« Reply #512 on: November 07, 2019, 08:38:58 PM »
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We know enough of what happened that night. We know enough about how the police treat people.

Please, enlighten us.

Us?

You mean enlighten you.

Do your own research.

Research? What I imagine you class as research is the sort of stuff that would embarrass people with an extensive tin foil hat collection.

Luckily, when you actually need the police they won't have the same pathetic mentality you have.

Imagine whatever you like.

Althoufh it I were to offer you any advice, it would be to try to calm your imagination down. You have gone bezerk in your imagination of me.

Offline bob

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Re: Dalian Atkinson
« Reply #513 on: November 07, 2019, 08:39:57 PM »
Fuck the police

Really?

Yeah they murdered Dalian.

What's so difficult to understand?


A policeman is accused of murder. You'd have to be particularly dim to equate that one, potentially, rogue officer with all police.

ok boomer

Offline Jon Crofts

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Re: Dalian Atkinson
« Reply #514 on: November 07, 2019, 08:43:40 PM »
It really upsets me.

He shouldn't have died. He was unwell. He was physically weak. He needed help.

Instead he was killed.

We know enough of what happened that night. We know enough about how the police treat people.

Struggle away if you want.

Wow. Just fucking wow.

Offline Ads

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Re: Dalian Atkinson
« Reply #515 on: November 07, 2019, 08:47:09 PM »
Fuck the police

Really?

Yeah they murdered Dalian.

What's so difficult to understand?


A policeman is accused of murder. You'd have to be particularly dim to equate that one, potentially, rogue officer with all police.

ok boomer

Boomer? I'm 33.

Offline Hopadop

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Re: Dalian Atkinson
« Reply #516 on: November 07, 2019, 09:33:29 PM »
Murder is a BIG ask in terms of a trial verdict, so the CPS must have some pretty damning evidence against that officer (to go for murder instead of manslaughter).  Proving intent to kill, especially as it was a taser which is designated a non-lethal weapon - is VERY difficult.  I suspect there is something pretty bad in the evidence pack the public is not yet aware of.

Doesn't have to be an intention to kill. Intent to cause grievous ('really serious') harm is enough.

Offline Hopadop

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Re: Dalian Atkinson
« Reply #517 on: November 07, 2019, 09:42:48 PM »
How comes his accused  is out on bail?

For most offences there's a presumption in favour of bail. That was the case for murder until 10 years ago when the presumption was reversed. But the Crown Court can still grant murder suspects bail if there's no significant risk of them causing harm to anyone else.  It's very rare though.

Before the presumption changed a police officer (Inspector I think) accused of murdering his wife was granted bail at the Old Bailey. He then killed his mother in law, and then himself.

Offline DB

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Re: Dalian Atkinson
« Reply #518 on: November 07, 2019, 09:52:40 PM »
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We know enough of what happened that night. We know enough about how the police treat people.

Please, enlighten us.

Us?

You mean enlighten you.

Do your own research.

Research? What I imagine you class as research is the sort of stuff that would embarrass people with an extensive tin foil hat collection.

Luckily, when you actually need the police they won't have the same pathetic mentality you have.

Imagine whatever you like.

Althoufh it I were to offer you any advice, it would be to try to calm your imagination down. You have gone bezerk in your imagination of me.

Seems like you’re the one with the bezerk imagination

Offline Clark W Griswold

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Re: Dalian Atkinson
« Reply #519 on: November 08, 2019, 10:03:01 AM »

Offline Ads

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Re: Dalian Atkinson
« Reply #520 on: November 08, 2019, 11:51:53 AM »
Very good.

Offline bob

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Re: Dalian Atkinson
« Reply #521 on: November 08, 2019, 11:53:01 AM »
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We know enough of what happened that night. We know enough about how the police treat people.

Please, enlighten us.

Us?

You mean enlighten you.

Do your own research.

Research? What I imagine you class as research is the sort of stuff that would embarrass people with an extensive tin foil hat collection.

Luckily, when you actually need the police they won't have the same pathetic mentality you have.

Imagine whatever you like.

Althoufh it I were to offer you any advice, it would be to try to calm your imagination down. You have gone bezerk in your imagination of me.

Seems like you’re the one with the bezerk imagination

I don't have to imagine anything.

How about instead of imagining a fantastical vision of some tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist, or suggesting I'm dim, you acknowledge that a frail man was killed by a police officer using a weapon.

Acknowledge that that police officer has been charged with murder.

How many police officers are wrongly charged with murder?

Offline Small Rodent

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Re: Dalian Atkinson
« Reply #522 on: November 08, 2019, 11:57:39 AM »
Saying "ok boomer" negates any sort of argument anybody may have.

Offline bob

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Re: Dalian Atkinson
« Reply #523 on: November 08, 2019, 12:04:59 PM »
Saying "ok boomer" negates any sort of argument anybody may have.

Only in your head.

Which no-one other than you cares about.

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