Où est Johnny Deux?

[VillaAlways]

From the Birmingham Mail

FORGOTTEN man Jean Makoun must wait until a slight complication with his work permit is resolved before he can attempt to kickstart his Villa career.


Makoun has been unable to take part in Paul Lambert’s pre-season training regime so far because he is still awaiting international clearance.

It is not known when the Cameroon midfielder’s paperwork will finally go through, but he is unlikely to join the club’s tour to America next week.

The delay is not thought to be serious and has only arisen because extra documentation is required following his year with Olympiakos in Greece.

Makoun still has two years left to run on his Villa contract and Lambert is keen to sit down with the £5 million player to discuss his future.

Olympiakos were initially interested in making his loan move permanent, but Greek sources suggest they would be unable to afford his probable transfer fee.

Makoun has struggled to settle at Villa and has experienced a frustrating time since former boss Gerard Houllier signed him from Lyon 18 months ago.

His bright start in claret and blue was undermined by a sending off at Blackpool and since then his first team opportunities have been limited.

Makoun missed the end of the 2010-11 campaign and returned to Cameroon compassionate leave after relatives were hurt in a road accident back home.

Last summer, after Alex McLeish deemed him surplus to requirements, he was sent for a season-long loan at Olympiakos, helping them to the Greek title.

[Hookeysmith]

We send a player on loan when we are struggling and he helps his loan team win the title

What a wanker TSM was

[VinnieChase84]

JDII is being linked with a move to Rennes this morning in the French press, with us getting Brahimi/Doumbia in return

[supertom]

JDII is being linked with a move to Rennes this morning in the French press, with us getting Brahimi/Doumbia in return

2+2=5
Wouldn't mind either of them though tbh. Or both.

[Chrisupnorth]

We send a player on loan when we are struggling and he helps his loan team win the title

What a wanker TSM was

Yes. A fantastic judge of a footballer.

[Phil from the upper holte]

He couldn't have done that much as he was injured but yes TSM was a wanker

[Toronto Villa]

We send a player on loan when we are struggling and he helps his loan team win the title

What a wanker TSM was

Why would he not at least give the bloke a chance? It was almost his first act as Villa manager to get rid of a player that can actually trap and pass a football. All of the wankers under GH got a second chance and Makoun was ditched. And then TSM brings in Hutton. What a sorry chapter of our great history last year proved to be.

[peter w]

I guess he was ditched in the hope that Jenas would come good. him being injured the whole time he was here didn't help but he took the gamble that he would be fit. Probably 'Arry passed on some dodgy medical notes. But at the start of the season a fit midfield of Petrov/Jenas/Albrighton/NZogbia/Ireland/Bannan/Delph was probably seen as good enough. it was a fair call if Lambert had have made it but McLeish was such a poor manager that they looked as if they'd never met each other. If makoun had have stayed here I don't think McLeish would have helped him look any more of a footballer than his detractors (me) think of him now. Maybe Lambert can.

[PaulTheVillan]

I think he'll be off.

[KRS]

Another glitch in the JDII saga...he doesnt seem to have much luck with Villa does he.

[Risso]

Well its still ten time more than any other of our players.

Not saying you're using it as a yardstick but just because someone has played in the CL doesn't mean we should be moving heaven and earth to finding an opening for him in the team.

No it's not. Given's played just as many. As has Petrov.

And again, you're imagining people saying things when they're not. Nobody is saying that we should build the team around him or that he is one of our best players.

But when we don't really have many central midfielders, ditching the one that we have with the most pedigree just for the hell of it seems a bit fucking stupid.

His pedigree isn't in the Premier League though, and it shows.  I just don't think he's up to it.  A view seemingly shared by all of his Villa managers to date, and the other Premier League managers who should surely have been queuing up for such a Champions League regular.  If he was any good.  Which he isn't.

[Ger Regan]

So are you advocating selling off any player that doesn't do well in their first half a dozen games at the club?

[KRS]

So are you advocating selling off any player that doesn't do well in their first half a dozen games at the club?

I'd advocate selling a player who doesnt impresss the management in training let alone half a dozen games.

[Dave]

So are you advocating selling off any player that doesn't do well in their first half a dozen games at the club?

I'd advocate selling a player who doesnt impresss the management in training let alone half a dozen games.

Or to rephrase "a player that Gary McAllister and Alex McLeish don't want to be in the team".

I'd consider that more of a positive than a negative.

[KRS]

I'm sure PL and the new management team will give him a fair chance and draw their own conclusions on whether or not they think JDII is good enough. This can be identified in training and pre-season games with the rest of the squad. Thats all we can ask of them.