Manchester United v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[danlanza]

This is worse than anything I have experienced in 65 years.   Worse to endure.   Worst to get through.   Worst to live with.

We have had dozens of worse players than those who wore the shirt today.   We have played dozens of games in which we were worse than we were today.   We have even had managers as bad - in their own ways - as McLeish.   What sets this season apart from the 64 others I have witnessed was summed up in a word by Mazrim a few days ago.   That word is predictable.

I have never experienced such empty hopelessness as I do at the moment.   The owner is the billionaire son of a billionaire.   He lives a long way away.   He gives every impression that he no longer cares for the club he bought.   Nobody knows what the plan is for the future or even if there is a plan.   Those of us who love the club have to survive on scraps of rumour and hearsay.   It is for all the world as though we, the fans do not exist.   The manager has been appointed.   The manager has been given his orders.   The board has been appointed.   The board has been given its orders.   Where do the supporters figure in that?   Answer.  They don't.

From the very instant that we were told that McLeish was to be our manager everything which has happened and which continues to happen including the game today and the facile and patronizing comments by Ferguson about McLeish were totally predictable.

When Gerry Francis was made England captain back in the day, the Guardian ran a headline "Adrift with a stoker at the wheel".   We have nobody at the wheel because all the real power is vested in Randy Lerner and to all intents and purposes as far as Villa are concerned he is dead.

All of this, the relegation spectre, the truly awful football, the shrinking gates, the demoralized players, the good hidings from competent teams and scraped draws against the dross is all so entirely and cruelly predictable.   Alas so is nothing being done until we are relegated.  Not being relegated is now our Champions League.

Excellent post typed with feeling. Ive done 55.5 yrs and apart from when Tony Hateley left to that day in Dec 68 when Doug breezed in this is as bad as it gets.
And if we dont beat Bolton we could very well go down

We have an 80yr old Ex Chairman who goes to practically every game and a current chairman who has been to two!  says it all really.

There in one quote we have the voice of VILLA.A person who for over half a century has been a loyal supporter of this great club.Mr learner,Mr mcleish,see this message and get the hell out of our club.THIS MAN WAS WATCHING THE VILLA BEFORE THE PAIR OF YOU WERE IN NAPPIES,HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS ON ABOUT.GET OUT THE PAIR OF YOU.DO OUR GREAT CLUB A MASSIVE FAVOUR AND GO!!!!!!

[PeterWithesShin]

He should be sacked just for using the term Theatre of Dreams. Wanker can fuck off now as far as i'm concerned.

[luke25]

"The young lions have come to the Theatre of Dreams, the champions, a world-class club side playing against people like Scholes thinking can we get close to them, can we stop them playing?

From McLeish after match report on the OS. Two words, McLeish Out!

Link please?

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2736541,00.html

So embarassing.

How anyone can support this bloke is beyond me.

The OS want shooting for having the nerve to put that up

I feel like putting me head through the window, to hear him say that is just fucking embarrasing and cringe-worthy. Just go Alex, your a loser thats way out of your depth.

[john e]

"The young lions have come to the Theatre of Dreams, the champions, a world-class club side playing against people like Scholes thinking can we get close to them, can we stop them playing?

From McLeish after match report on the OS. Two words, McLeish Out!

Link please?

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2736541,00.html

So embarassing.

How anyone can support this bloke is beyond me.

That beggars belief.

he talks like that and says those things because he knows he going,
 he is a dead man walking at the moment and he knows he cant survive, he knows deep down nobody can fail as badly as him and get away with it,
 so i wouldnt take much notice of the stuff he comes out with, just console ourselves it wont be for much longer

[pauliewalnuts]

It is humiliating to hear an Aston Villa manager talk about another team in our league that way.

You might think that, Alex, but keep it to yourself.

The bloke is all about saving face for himself. He becomes more and more O'Leary-esque every week

[Walmley_Villa]

I'm gob smacked! Or am I?

The guy is an embarrassment to himself and the club. McLeish, you are breaking the Trade Descriptions Act and falsely posing as a football manager. Do the honourable thing and do one.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

When Blandy and McCuntycunt have finished gargling Ferguson's Jism, they may wish to reflect on how they've fucked over the club and it's support.

O'Pubehead must be rubbing his hands together at the thought of next weeks game.

His after match comment
'If we play like we have in the last two home matches, we can get 3 points.'

What a stupid, worthless piece of shit that man is.

[Legion]

He's a disgrace to our great club. Ashamed.

[danlanza]

Villa Park is our theatre of dreams.Does he ever try to build our home games up with that sort of stuff?Does he fuck!!!!!first class loser he is.Gives up before the bloody game has started.How the hell are the players going to feel with that twats attitude?wanker.

[garyshawsknee]

With post match comments like that,we as a club have virtually hit rock bottom. Last season seems like a vintage year now,thats how bad its got. At best we can finish 15th,we'll only stay up due to there being 3 terrible teams in a weak league. How much further can this useless piece of shit drag us down?

[Steve67]

Actually, a thought about HAVING to play the kids at Old Trafford.  No he fucking didn't HAVE to play the kids at Old Trafford, he had Heskey, Cuellar and N'Zogbia on the bench and could have left Baker, who fucked up badly for the second goal, whereas Carlos wouldn't have, Wiemann and Gardner on the bench today.  I think the using the kids thing is an excuse today. No doubts it'll be the same thing next week.  Hiding behind the kids is cowardly.

[john2710]

With the team available & who we were playing, the result was a forgone conclusion. Wasn't helped by the 'penalty' decision but as Young was apparently taught how to cheat by us that makes it acceptable? I'm only surprised Halsey (cnut) didn't let Rooney take it whilst Given wasn't looking.

We can't be too critical of anyone today, we don't have the players with the quality or experience to cope with the number of injuries we have.

We now have two big games to get the 3 points which should be enough to see us safe. That's ALL that matters for now. We can all make our decision on buying season tickets etc.. when the season is over.

If Eck is to stay (I think only relegation will see him sacked) he MUST be given the funds to ensure that the squad has the quality & experience required, so we are not in the same situation again next season. Whether he can build a team & whether I can be bothered to watch him try is highly questionable .

UTV

[PeterWithesShin]

He would have been slaughtered for playing Heskey instead of Weimann today.
I also don't think Zog or Carlos were fit enough to play the whole game.

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

Think Gabby should watch this game again and make a public apology. He was terrible and as captain showed no inspiration or leadership whatsover. He lokked totally uninterested and constantly gave the ball away. Collins, Baker and Lichaj showed some spirit and Caruthers looks a promising player. I know Gardner is still only young but he has been disappointing. Ashley Young is a total disgrace .................

[claret and blue blood]

Can,t understand how Hutton gets the right back slot over Lichaj who is far better, Hutton is easily the worst defender I've seen in that position, if for no other reason Mcshite should get the bullet for signing him then continually playing him.