Manchester United v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[mikeb1982]

I m doubly gutted. I was going to have a bet on 4-0 but didnt bother!!!

Oh and Mcleish OUT!!

Ouch!

[Villanation]

If we keep this bloke on, it will be a decision of fuckwittedness and arrogance from Lerner of the highest order.

I used to think we weren't the worst Villa side I had seen, just the most spineless. Now I am not too sure.

A season of quite excruciating embarrassment. That is the word for it, and that is the worst bit.

The most depressing thing is that Lerner probably thinks this is acceptable. If he does, then he really hasn't understood the first thing about this club.

If McLeish is here (he will be) and we stay up, I am going to lump at least a hundred quid on us going down next year.

Spot on......I just can't see what Lerner is hoping to achieve, this is the squad, he (AM) can't do anything with it, we will get relegated eventually like this, so does RL want to give this bloke 25+ML to buy players in the hope he turns it around, surely the first action is to get rid of the manager.

[arnie66]

Worst I've ever seen us. Changes has to happen or we will drop like a rock. Question is whether Randy places his ego higher then the club?

Have you supported Villa before today?

It has been much worse than this....and here's the bad news it will probably have to get much worse before anything changes.....keep the faith.....it will eventually get better

[Steve R]

It was pretty one-sided, but there were still some positives.

Baker looks to be a good centre half in the making. Lichaj was solid again and I liked the way Carruthers moved the ball around when he came on. Weimann worked his swingers off ans also looks a good player approaching his time.

Set against this, some players should have ddelivered but didn't. Gabby looked disinterested at best and despite his heroic challenge on Shithead, Hutton must be one of the most vulnerable full backs in the league. Barry Bannan has gone backwards very quickly.

[He wears a magic hat]

Its not fight we lack and you cant fault the effort but when you are set up so negatively what else do you expect. such a predictable result

im waiting for AM to blame the ref and the penalty decision for the result

[villanois]

I only caught the last 20 minutes or so. The only positive O can draw is the youngsters look confident and the experience they have gained this season should be an asset next year.

We can't progress with this manager though.

IV, my biggest concern is that what AM is doing will kill thse kids.
There is some real talent there, but he is not developing them, he is exposing them to failure, pressure and blame.
He is going the fuck them up if we are not careful.

I said something similar on an anti-McLeish thread. It's good the kids are getting experience, but I do not want him taking charge of them. Like, as you say, it must be demoralising for them. Imagine what a top manager would do for those gems.

It's the lasting damage that is a bigger concern, has destroyed the team and will destroy the future. Randy has no concept of relegation and how tough it would be to recover

[django]

It was nice to see Ireland having a laugh with Rooney at the final whistle, maybe morale isn't as bad as we thought?

Oh.

[barrysleftfoot]

  Does anybody still think Gabby is worth playing week in week out?

 A team that can't keep the ball or pass the ball to each other.

  Gabby......awful

  GG.........terrible

  Bannan.........too weak

  Clark..........too slow.

 Collins MOM, Eric , Baker and Weimann ok, Carruthers looks a good little player..

  Are we shit because of the manager or because of the players, a little bit of both i'm afraid.

[Phil from the upper holte]

I think we stand a good chance of gettin relegated next season with this twat, 1 win in 12 we haven't scored from a set piece this season and It's our lowest ever points total at this stage

[paulcomben]

Martin O'Neill must be deep in thought. Not about how to counter Villa's strengths. About whether Gardner will score more than one in a Mackems away win next Saturday.

[Nev]

Judging by the reaction on here and from other fans I have spoken to the manager should be shamed into falling on his sword.

Same approach, some result, same post match interview, that's why people are loosing interest.

[PaulWinch again]

I shall repeat my comment from earlier in the week that we are the worst team on current form in the division apart from Wolves

No doubt some barking mad nutter will dispute that as they did previously

We definitely are.

[garyshawsknee]

I didn't expect anything else from the game,but the fact that Utd didn't have to get out of first gear to turn us over is pretty depressing. And by now Mccleish is probably having a glass of wine with Ferguson,congratulating each other on a job well done.

[hawkeye]

Everything about that was predictable, they  get a dodgy penalty, we  play the game without any strategy or tactics, a number of our senior players dont give a fuck a few of our youngsters Bannan and Gardner are not good enough. Manure beat us at walking pace, we concede a late goal.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Have to agree about Gabby. We started with 7 home grown players on the pitch - Gabby has more experience than the other six put together and has the captains armband. He more than anybody should be leading these kids by example.