Aston Villa fans' group in call to join protest against Alex Mcleish

[ozzjim]

I think its going to take a long time to sink in with Lerner that people want him out now because of results rather than the blose thing. But then you can't really blame him for having that opinion when fuckwits demonstrate against the manager before the team has kicked a ball. Doh, facepalm etc...

I agree greg completely, but I don't understand the stick for people protesting now. The team are paid millions and millions of pounds, and they have not been motivated enough or organised well enough with a squad well capable of being easily safe now. As it is we are 3 points from safety realistically, so this leaving it to the summer is going to achieve what? What is the message going to be? I think your suggestion is a pretty good one greg re the last game, but protesting before a game is not harmful IMO, the support in games this season has been bloody miraculous considering the standard of our home performances. At some point people stand up. The actions of the club had a decent bearing on me not renewing last summer, that was my decision with it all, but people doing it before the game are doing so because they care about what is happening to the club but have a different approach. I don't think either stance should be ridiculed by the other - we are all Villa fans at the end of the day.

[VillaAlways]

Well the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans were pretty successful in getting Hodgson out. I'm pretty sure hexwould have been given more time had they not been so vociferous

[Greg N'Ash]

they should set up one of those e-petitions on the Gov-site. If they all sign, then we'll see a "Is Mcleish shite?" debate in the House of Commons. Lerner will HAVE to listen then

[Greg N'Ash]

I think its going to take a long time to sink in with Lerner that people want him out now because of results rather than the blose thing. But then you can't really blame him for having that opinion when fuckwits demonstrate against the manager before the team has kicked a ball. Doh, facepalm etc...

I agree greg completely, but I don't understand the stick for people protesting now. The team are paid millions and millions of pounds, and they have not been motivated enough or organised well enough with a squad well capable of being easily safe now. As it is we are 3 points from safety realistically, so this leaving it to the summer is going to achieve what? What is the message going to be? I think your suggestion is a pretty good one greg re the last game, but protesting before a game is not harmful IMO, the support in games this season has been bloody miraculous considering the standard of our home performances. At some point people stand up. The actions of the club had a decent bearing on me not renewing last summer, that was my decision with it all, but people doing it before the game are doing so because they care about what is happening to the club but have a different approach. I don't think either stance should be ridiculed by the other - we are all Villa fans at the end of the day.

I'm not against anyone protesting about results/performances - its fair enough in my view. Don't think it will do any good currently but thats just my opinion.

[The Man With A Stick]

Next season worries me greatly.

Agreed. If he is in charge then we will be in mix for relegation, a lot more than this season.....we could go down.

At least Gentle Ben will have gone.  Assuming we haven't offered him a bumper new deal, £40k a week and an unlimited supply of crisps.

[john e]

I think its going to take a long time to sink in with Lerner that people want him out now because of results rather than the blose thing. But then you can't really blame him for having that opinion when fuckwits demonstrate against the manager before the team has kicked a ball. Doh, facepalm etc...

I agree greg completely, but I don't understand the stick for people protesting now. The team are paid millions and millions of pounds, and they have not been motivated enough or organised well enough with a squad well capable of being easily safe now. As it is we are 3 points from safety realistically, so this leaving it to the summer is going to achieve what? What is the message going to be? I think your suggestion is a pretty good one greg re the last game, but protesting before a game is not harmful IMO, the support in games this season has been bloody miraculous considering the standard of our home performances. At some point people stand up. The actions of the club had a decent bearing on me not renewing last summer, that was my decision with it all, but people doing it before the game are doing so because they care about what is happening to the club but have a different approach. I don't think either stance should be ridiculed by the other - we are all Villa fans at the end of the day.

totaly agree ozzjim,
 the posters who are ridiculing the protesters and taking some sort of moral high ground are some of the very same ones that are banging on about Mcliesh night and day on here, saying he's going to take us down this season or next, and is absolutly useless untill we get rid we cant move forward.
then as soon as someone forms a protest it 'a pointless excersise' 'making fools of themselves' etc, its the hight of hypocrisy in my view.

i'm 50 year old. i wont be protesting, but i wont criticise those that do,
 its a bit like Brigada, i'm to old to be making banners and waving flags so i wont be joining them but i support what they are trying to do.

as for those saying lets wait till the summer,  how will that work then ? no one will be going anywhere near VP for a few months, if you really want Mcliesh out then you will have to make your voices heard between now and the end of the season.

as the politicians would say -    put up or shut up

[ez]

As said, the last home game is the time for protest as long as we are safe by then. A sit in after the game?

[Des Little]

The last one was both pointless and embarrassing so why bother again?  People need to understand that Lerner will not sack Eck, regardless...we simply can't afford to; it won't happen.  More importantly, shouldn't we all be giving the team our support in such difficult times?  Isn't that what supporters do?

[Legion]

The last one was both pointless and embarrassing so why bother again?  People need to understand that Lerner will not sack Eck, regardless...we simply can't afford to; it won't happen.  More importantly, shouldn't we all be giving the team our support in such difficult times?  Isn't that what supporters do?

You'd think so, wouldn't you?

[dave.woodhall]

How many supporter protests have ever worked?

[caster troy]

The last one was both pointless and embarrassing so why bother again?  People need to understand that Lerner will not sack Eck, regardless...we simply can't afford to; it won't happen.  More importantly, shouldn't we all be giving the team our support in such difficult times?  Isn't that what supporters do?

What if we apply enough pressure with protests to force them to sack McLeish, then we get a better manager and results improve? Maybe sometimes the best way to support the club is to demand change? How many times this season have we backed the team at Villa Park and seen atrocious performances? There were no protests before the Swansea game but that didn't stop us from being absolutely terrible. Plan A was back him and hope for the best, now for me we're onto Plan B, force the club to get rid no matter what it takes.

[Des Little]

[caster troy]

http://youtu.be/ivLMbrNzbWE

[London Villan]

I think the 8000 missing supporters from a couple of years ago should be more of a point than the 100 or so hanging around outside protesting on  Saturday.

[basavfc]

30,000 supporting our team would be better. Why does everyone have to have the same opinion as you?

You can have 130,000 fans supporting the team, it will make no difference whatsoever as to the result or as to the status of the team and the appalling white flag negative football we are playing, we may not all agree totally on the minor details of the points raised but one thing is patently obvious, change has to be made and its becoming obvious that its going to be down to the fans to push that through.

For me it very very simple, there is right and there is wrong and McLiesh is wrong for Villa, anybody can have the opinion that McLiesh can stay, no problem with that, providing they don't mind seeing the inevitable decline of the club under his management, all Villa fans I know detest the football and detest the way the club is going.

If anyone wants to support the team/club, then look beyond what you may think is the case and see what is actually happening, the right way to support the club is for the overall good of the football club and its future, it may not be something you agree with now, but this time next season you will if McLiesh is still in charge.

The hard cold facts are (as backed up by the latest published accounts) we have paid millions in settling ex managers contracts, these figures didn't include paying the shite for Mc, he aint going anywhere short term, we are saddled with him for now.
Who knows what might happen when we lose heskeys wages etc and he brings in more frees (which were derided when he told us that is what we would be doing) hopefully of the quality of Holman.
Let's use the hot air on singing the team to victory over the russians on saturday and give doug another day to remember !
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