Relegation Possibility

[Edvard Remberg]

Problem is that will we pick any more points up this season? There is a chance for 0 points, though we prob get a draw or 2.

[django]

The main problem is i can see Wigan, Blackburn, QPR scoring the goals they need to win games and potentially pass us, even if they have tough games still to play. Bolton i'm less sure about.

I'm not confident we will get anything out of the Sunderland, Bolton, West Brom games, we are a poor side who in most other seasons would be destined for the drop.

Think we will get away with it this year but if we have to go into the Spurs and Norwich games needing points, heaven help us. I have visions of us at Norwich, sunny day, them signing off a successful season but with nothing to play for but pride, totally relaxed, us tense and mis-managed, in the bottom 3 with Oh Eck telling us to keep it in the corner...shudder.

[Fernando Partridge]

Perhaps he can learn from last years experience and therefor is in a good place to keep us up. Several draws later....

[atomicjam]

We are in real trouble. We do not want to go into the last couple of games with the chance of going down. So much that I have witnessed this season from an AM team, so much that I enjoyed watching from his team last season tells me that he is a manager out of his depth that has no idea how to organise or motivate a team. Its a sad state of affairs but we need teams currently below us to get beat as I have no convidence of us adding to our handfull of victories this season.

[Greg N'Ash]

think we can forget blackburn. Realistically they're not gonna get 8 points which is what they'll need given their goal difference to overtake us. If they stay up it will be at the expense of one of wigan, bolton or Rangers.. Just the last place to worry about

[Nastylee]

I think we will get a point at Norwich, but if that will be enough is up in the air. Spurs last but one game, on their current form, could provide our easiest win. I will be cheering them on all the way at the way on Saturday for sure. They won't be steaming into tackles with the cup final a game away.

Dunno. Spurs - probably need a win to get in the CL.
Baggies- local derby, nothing they'd like better than put us in the shit.
Norwich - nothing to play for, but last home game, excellant season, party atmosphere - don't fancy that.

The long shot is actually needing the points with 3 games to go, but if a)the teams below us do VERY good and b) we do VERY bad in the next three games then i will officially have The Fear.

Have you asked him?

[ktvillan]

Perhaps he can learn from last years experience and therefor is in a good place to keep us up. Several draws later....

You mean like he learned from the experience of relegating Blues the first time?

[Hookeysmith]

History denotes that this guy have a great ability to pull defeat from the jaws of victory - just ask any nose that can use words without saying "shit on the Villa"  At this point last year they thought they were safe as houses

I am shitting myself and the more i think about our injuries and the whole affair regarding Stan (not that it was avoidable but it has given him something to hide behind)

What was once incomprehensible is now a scary scary reality

Even more worryingly if we survive it will be held up by the clown and probably randy as some sort of victory - i know no one has rights to premiership survival but FFS we are ASTON VILLA - to even be in this situation is deplorable and the manager should go at the end of the season because this is just not acceptable

[john e]

We haven't lost in 2,
Look at the predictions in the 'run in' thread, how many had us picking up 2 points in our last 2 games,hardly anyone, go on have a look,
so other teams might well have done better than expected but so have we.

6 points is massive at this stage with few games left, we are in a better position than last week,
I can't see the reason for the meltdown here

[django]

think we can forget blackburn. Realistically they're not gonna get 8 points which is what they'll need given their goal difference to overtake us. If they stay up it will be at the expense of one of wigan, bolton or Rangers.. Just the last place to worry about

Yeah looking at the table a bit more closely i think you are right, we're basically in a mini-league of four.

[VillaAlways]

Blues beat Sunderland 2-0 on 16 th April and then want on their poorest run all season picking up only 1 point Their worst run of the season

We have every reason to be worried

[Greg N'Ash]

think we can forget blackburn. Realistically they're not gonna get 8 points which is what they'll need given their goal difference to overtake us. If they stay up it will be at the expense of one of wigan, bolton or Rangers.. Just the last place to worry about

Yeah looking at the table a bit more closely i think you are right, we're basically in a mini-league of four.

yep. or put another way, if blackburn stay up then we certainly will because two of the teams above them would have to do shit

[richard moore]

Seven points above Blackburn, six above Bolton. We have to play Bolton. Our team is not able to defend from set pieces or crosses, we are crippled with injuries, and we are playing Mark Halsey and Man United in Old Trafford this wkend  . Anyone that thinks we are okay will be dragged into reality shortly I think.

I am there already and have been for some time. I would only echo Paulie Walnut's and KT Villains comments that relegation is far more likely than many on here realise. Experiences of recent relegation seasons tell me it is all about momentum at this stage, getting on a roll and having a regular goal scorer. We possess none of those things. Scouring the fixtures and trying to see who will win which game is often meaningless - see West Ham a few seasons ago for a good example with Tevez getting them crucial wins against the likes of Arsenal and Man Utd in their run in when no one gave them a chance. What scares me the most is that we are probably the least well equipped team in terms of personnel and/or manager at this particular moment in time. Yes, we may have potential down the line in terms of our youngsters, but right now they are in the mix with teams that contain a lot of battle hardened and experienced pros who know how to mix it down the wrong end of the table

[Mazrim]

Firstly, let me say I am as unhappy as most of you with the situation we are in.
It is deeply concerning if not a matter of life and death. I hope steps are taken to put it right soon and I have no faith in this manager at all and want him gone asap.

However, regarding the possibility of relegation this season, which would essentially mean Blackburn and Bolton overtaking us as things stand...

Blackburn are 7 points behind with a goal difference that essentially makes it 8 points and therefore would have to win 3 games, or win 2 and draw 2 from their last 5 games to overtake us (we have 6 games) if we dont pick up another point (which I dont envisage happening).
This is their fixture list:

Swansea V Blackburn 
Blackburn V Norwich
Tottenham V Blackburn   
Blackburn V Wigan
Chelsea V Blackburn

Can they get 8 points from those? I doubt it. And every point we get makes it even more of a struggle.

Bolton are essentially 7 points behind with the same number of games as us but also have to come to Villa Park. I know we are having a crap season but we have enough to beat them. They're a very poor side.
Their fixtures:

Bolton v Swansea
Villa v Bolton
Sunderland v Bolton
Bolton v Spurs
Bolton v WBA
Stole v Bolton

I honestly dont see them getting 5 points there, never mind 7. And we'll beat them too.
Never say never but if you reckon we're going down, go and give the bookies your money. They love it.

[NiiLamptey]

If Wigan get something at the Emirates on Monday night, then it really will be time to worry! They then face Fulham away and Newcasle home after that. But they have a belief and aren't scared to have a go - unlike boring Mr Negative. What dismayed me the most was his ''we've got to be realistic'' quote from the recent Arsenal away game giving the players zero confidence to try and win the game. If we'd played Man Utd last night there's no way we would've beat them as we have to be ''realistic''

I still think it'll go to the Norwich game on the final day - the worryingh thing is Wigan face Wolves at home that same day!

Football is a game of irony...

Beginning of the season, Martinez snubbed us and we all said why would you turn down Villa only to be relegated this season with Wigan!

I can just see the above happening, its how football seems to work!