Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread

[Rigadon]

Just back.  Embarrassing Garbage. 

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

1 - Warnock is an awful player.
2 - "Why can't we pass it around instead of hoofing it?" said the bloke next to me (and countless others), "Because they're patient and you're not" was my response. Brendan Rogers and his players have said numerous times that they will always pass it. It if goes wrong, it goes wrong, but eventually passing the ball will be more beneficial. The Villa fans have never and will never accept that. Our fans prevent us from having a team that passes the ball. We had a manager last season who was trying to change the way we played, and look at the response he got.
3 - The booing for the substitution of Ireland? I'm sorry, I must have blinked when Ireland did his bit to warrant staying on the pitch.
4 - Two shocking mistakes by players who should know better is not AM's fault.
5 - First 20 minutes we looked good.
6 - AM should've changed the tactics a lot earlier and played two up front pretty much when we went 2-0 down.

Out of interest, have the Villa ever been a passing team? I've been going since about 95/96 and, whilst on occasions, we have passed it well, we've never done it like they did today.

Under Big Ron.

Just missed out then!

Were Villa fans more patient then, because I can't imagine fans giving the team time to be able to do that.?

[KRS]

We're crap at playing 'lesser' teams at home, and have been since the MON days.

Is this the same "lesser" team that have played Spurs and numerous other teams off the park this season?

Bent should not be sold; he is not a "luxury" and the manager should have the basic common sense and tactical awareness to play to a system that utilises his abilities to stick the ball in the back of the net and that is by providing him with service. How many more times are we going to have so few shots on goal this season with so many attacking players in our squad? Its truly pathetic.

Fairplay to Swansea...just think how good they could be if they had the "luxury" of having Bent in their team.

Maybe Sam meant the lesser team that had managed 3 points and 6 goals in their previous 9 away games?

Yeah I was genuinely surprised when I realised that they hadnt won away from home this season...but then I immediately thought that today would be the day that changes that. Like I said at the end of my post: "just think how good they could be if they had the "luxury" of having Bent in their team"...chances are they would have more away wins under their belt by now.

May be I should have said..."Is this the same "lesser" team that are now above us in the table, havent spent millions on their squad and showed us how to play football today".

The truly scary thing for me is that if we hadnt have got that unexpected brilliant result against Chelsea on the weekend which managed to give us all a false hope for 48hrs, then we would be sat exactly in my worse case scenario prediction in the table...we would be 15th in the table right now.

[SoccerHQ]

Unbelievably inept. Could be used to just describe Warnock but more likely the whole team today.

All the good work of Saturday completely wasted.

Great stuff.

[bertlambshank]

1 - Warnock is an awful player.
2 - "Why can't we pass it around instead of hoofing it?" said the bloke next to me (and countless others), "Because they're patient and you're not" was my response. Brendan Rogers and his players have said numerous times that they will always pass it. It if goes wrong, it goes wrong, but eventually passing the ball will be more beneficial. The Villa fans have never and will never accept that. Our fans prevent us from having a team that passes the ball. We had a manager last season who was trying to change the way we played, and look at the response he got.
3 - The booing for the substitution of Ireland? I'm sorry, I must have blinked when Ireland did his bit to warrant staying on the pitch.
4 - Two shocking mistakes by players who should know better is not AM's fault.
5 - First 20 minutes we looked good.
6 - AM should've changed the tactics a lot earlier and played two up front pretty much when we went 2-0 down.

Out of interest, have the Villa ever been a passing team? I've been going since about 95/96 and, whilst on occasions, we have passed it well, we've never done it like they did today.

Under Big Ron.

Just missed out then!

Were Villa fans more patient then, because I can't imagine fans giving the team time to be able to do that.?

We have never been that patient,but you cant blame the fans for what is happening.

[john e]

A factory of pain

[JJ-AV]

Outplayed by inferior players.

McLeish shouldn't take all of the blame, but it's not good enough. Oh to have a philosophy like Swansea.

Credit to them though, fantastic side and miles ahead of us.

[midnite]

Selling bent is not the answer. The answer is using someone who can score 20 goals a season in the right way to get him to score that many.

[hipkiss92]

Swansea's fans kept singing  'we'll sing on our own' during the game, at times it seemed like 'we'll play on our own' would have been more apt

[ez]

Losing is bad but why do we have to lose so badly??

[Phil from the upper holte]

Well done to Swansea. Brendan Rodgers has shown that not having much money does not mean that you can't play proper football, and has given a lie to the idea that, just because you can't compete at the top, doesn't mean you can't play the game in the 'right' way.

Agreed Monts.

Total agreement here also

[nigel]

1 - Warnock is an awful player.
2 - "Why can't we pass it around instead of hoofing it?" said the bloke next to me (and countless others), "Because they're patient and you're not" was my response. Brendan Rogers and his players have said numerous times that they will always pass it. It if goes wrong, it goes wrong, but eventually passing the ball will be more beneficial. The Villa fans have never and will never accept that. Our fans prevent us from having a team that passes the ball. We had a manager last season who was trying to change the way we played, and look at the response he got.
3 - The booing for the substitution of Ireland? I'm sorry, I must have blinked when Ireland did his bit to warrant staying on the pitch.
4 - Two shocking mistakes by players who should know better is not AM's fault.
5 - First 20 minutes we looked good.
6 - AM should've changed the tactics a lot earlier and played two up front pretty much when we went 2-0 down.

Out of interest, have the Villa ever been a passing team? I've been going since about 95/96 and, whilst on occasions, we have passed it well, we've never done it like they did today.

1/ Yes, Warnock had a torrid 1st half. I did feel he improved in the 2nd half.
2/ Agree. The support (I use the term lightly) turned as soon as we went a goal down. We'd actually been passing it quite nicely until then. I've said all season that our home support is crap, they just don't get behind the team when we need them. Why do you think we play better away? It's not all home supporters, some of us do try and get a flicker of life from the others.
3/ Couldn't work that out either. You could see he was knackered. Have to say I thought he'd been doing well, though.
4/ Agree. I posted on another thread that when we lose; it's AMcL's fault, yet when we win its the players who get the plaudits and he gets no credit. Totally wrong in my opinion.
5/ Agree. Obviously their 2nd goal killed us, you saw the confidence disappear., if they hadn't got it they may have had the jitters later in the game.
6/ I think he was hoping that eventually the formation would pay off. I still think our best formation could be 4-5-1 as Chelsea.

[Jimmy Smash]

Brendan Rogers to be offered the Villa job, anyone?

[pauliewalnuts]

Bent has to be sold, he is shit and we play shit when he is on the pitch.

Bent is shit?

With all due respect, what absolute nonsense that is. Look at his record. Look at his record here, even.

No striker - especially one with Bent's strengths - is going to prosper if the team don't get the ball to him.

Selling Bent now would have the triple whammy of taking our only reliable goalscorer away, making us look even more like a club going nowhere, and alienating the fanbase even more.

Right now, I can't think of a dimmer thing to do that sell Bent.

[Jimmy Smash]

I don't think Bent wants to be here... on those grounds we should get rid, for £25M or there abouts.