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Offline Ad@m

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #285 on: December 22, 2011, 08:39:49 PM »
Mark, you're right, it is a conspiracy theory. And like all the other conspiracy theories I don't buy it.

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #286 on: December 22, 2011, 08:49:52 PM »
If Randy sells and I do not believe he will in the foreseeable future it will be to another American or Americans.   Those are the circles in which he moves and feels most comfortable.   I hope he stays for a long long time and that the current shortage of funds is only a short term reaction to being taken for granted by people in whom he placed (some would say misplaced) trust.

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #287 on: December 22, 2011, 11:09:56 PM »
He thought that he could turn us into a force in England and maybe beyond, then reality struck, he gets stiffed by MON, flunks the next appointment, his money runs out and its all about stability and  enter Mcleish. The dream died with MONs failure. The franchise using business speak, the biggest club in the Midlands with a fan base that spans 5 counties continues to punch below its weight. We thought tht the Lerner era would reverse this trend but now we are being overtaken by Clubs like Stoke FFS.

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #288 on: December 23, 2011, 12:17:23 AM »
It's all very exciting to read, but this entire Qatari thing seems to have spiralled out of someone posting some nonsense on a blog. I love the internet, but it doesn't half make daft nonsense spread like absolute wildfire.









having said that, I'm crossing my fingers and toes. just in case.

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #289 on: December 23, 2011, 12:18:47 AM »
He thought that he could turn us into a force in England and maybe beyond, then reality struck, he gets stiffed by MON, flunks the next appointment, his money runs out and its all about stability and  enter Mcleish. The dream died with MONs failure. The franchise using business speak, the biggest club in the Midlands with a fan base that spans 5 counties continues to punch below its weight. We thought tht the Lerner era would reverse this trend but now we are being overtaken by Clubs like Stoke FFS.

I consider myself a sceptic, but I really don't see how we are being "overtaken" by Stoke City. Based on what? They spent some money last summer and got into the Europa League (does that mean we've been overtaken by Blues as well?)

There's lots of stuff clearly wrong with the club at the moment, but you'd have to have a particularly low opinion of the club to think we've been overtaken by Stoke.

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #290 on: December 23, 2011, 01:15:03 AM »
Not sure how we can be overtaken by a club that last finished us above us in the mid 70s. How does that work?

Do the respective wage bill/transfers back this up? *whistley fella*

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #291 on: December 23, 2011, 01:38:03 AM »
I suppose it's like when we sometimes finish above Liverpool and claim to have overtaken them.

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #292 on: December 23, 2011, 09:10:47 AM »
He thought that he could turn us into a force in England and maybe beyond, then reality struck, he gets stiffed by MON, flunks the next appointment, his money runs out and its all about stability and  enter Mcleish. The dream died with MONs failure. The franchise using business speak, the biggest club in the Midlands with a fan base that spans 5 counties continues to punch below its weight. We thought tht the Lerner era would reverse this trend but now we are being overtaken by Clubs like Stoke FFS.

I consider myself a sceptic, but I really don't see how we are being "overtaken" by Stoke City. Based on what? They spent some money last summer and got into the Europa League (does that mean we've been overtaken by Blues as well?)

There's lots of stuff clearly wrong with the club at the moment, but you'd have to have a particularly low opinion of the club to think we've been overtaken by Stoke.

Whether or not we've been overtaken by them (and I wouldn't use a league placing halfway through the season as evidence either way) they do seem to be building nicely, and appear to be well run, which is the polar opposite of us who are selling our better players, not replacing them and are generally a right old shambles.

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #293 on: December 23, 2011, 12:18:07 PM »
Herbert and Ray Ranson are as we speak/type hatching a plan.

The same Ray Ranson who recently did such a great job at Coventry?

Yes. The same Ray Ranson that some people wanted Doug to sell to.

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #294 on: December 23, 2011, 12:30:24 PM »
I would think that anyone looking to buy a club would be more interested in Newcastle.  Stadium - ok; team - ok as shown before injuries hit so just needs some additions not major overhaul; attendances - ok can expect to get 50K as a norm when we struggle to get 36k when we are in 6th place.

Plus the owner is, allegedly, actively looking to sell.  So unless he is asking for very silly money, I believe they are a more attractive proposition than us.


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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #295 on: December 23, 2011, 12:37:19 PM »
we struggle to get 36k when we are in 6th place.

We don't get Newcastle's crowd's but we do better than this.

Offline Irish villain

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #296 on: December 23, 2011, 06:45:06 PM »
we struggle to get 36k when we are in 6th place.

We don't get Newcastle's crowd's but we do better than this.

For three years we seemed to be 40k every week. Even in March 2008 on a bitterly cold day when we had the likes of Carson in goal and Zat Knight in defence we sold out against teams like Sunderland.

The potential is there.

Offline Jimmy Smash

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #297 on: December 23, 2011, 06:55:11 PM »
RAL had a 5 year plan, but the 5 year plan wa an audacious but gallant failure.  He has decided not to throw good money after bad. The best we can hope is that he thinks enough of us to sell us to another well intentioned modern philanthropist. Of course, he could just be spiteful and hang on until we sink into the mire...

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #298 on: December 23, 2011, 06:59:17 PM »
1. There was never a five year plan.

2. RAL is Reform Acquisitions Limited.

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #299 on: December 23, 2011, 07:01:23 PM »
1. There was never a five year plan.

2. RAL is Reform Acquisitions Limited.

Indeed.  Randy's middle name is David.

 


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